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From: "Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>, Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH 08/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeIpl: Relocate and remap XIP capable DXE drivers
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 10:25:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00FE89CA-4AA8-422F-806D-F90711159272@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXE33L3Q6ddni9nG2EOn1dvMZJMjReNA__+15q9jWKCv7w@mail.gmail.com>

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> On 30. May 2023, at 12:02, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:53, Marvin Häuser <mhaeuser@posteo.de <mailto:mhaeuser@posteo.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30. May 2023, at 11:48, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:47, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:42, Marvin Häuser <mhaeuser@posteo.de> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I took a *very brief* look at the entire series now. Is this just to apply permissions before CpuDxe is loaded
>> 
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> 
>> Well, actually, the first part of the series gets rid of some
>> pointless memory copies, which is an improvement in itself.
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry, I didn't mean the series, I meant the choice to handle things in DxeIpl over DxeCore in particular.
>> 
>> Is there even a non-FOSS producer of the CpuArch protocol? To my understanding, all (common) Intel platforms use the one in UefiCpuPkg. ARM and friends feel a lot less proprietary to begin with, but I could be wrong. We were quite successful so far with just merging CpuArch into DxeCore and setting it up quite early, but of course not at an industry-wide scale. :)
> 
> What about the dependencies of CpuArch protocol? On ARM, this is the
> GIC driver (for the interrupt controller), which has its own platform
> specific dependencies.

Hmm, was that for the exception handler? I forgot that was in CpuDxe too, I specifically meant the memory permission related things, sorry!

> 
> So this is not tractable in general, and the only options we have (imo) are
> 
> - add memory permission attribute handling to DxeCore directly (via a
> library with arch specific implementations)

Yes, this.

> - add a way to dispatch the CpuDxe *and its dependencies* without the
> need to manipulate memory permissions

That would be awful and I'd prefer your current solution over this.

> 
> Clumping everything together into DxeCore does not appear to me as a
> sustainable approach for this.


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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-29 10:16 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Permit DXE drivers to execute in place Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Remove unused 'EntryPoint' argument to LoadImage Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  5:54   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:36     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Remove unused DstBuffer arg from LoadImage Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  5:58   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Remove FreePage argument from CoreUnloadImage Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  5:59   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Avoid caching memory mapped FFS files Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:03   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:47     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Use memory mapped FV protocol to avoid image copy Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:21   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:51     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  8:40       ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  8:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Expose memory mapped FV protocol when possible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:22   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Execute loaded images in place if possible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:32   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:54     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeIpl: Relocate and remap XIP capable DXE drivers Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:45   ` [edk2-devel] " Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:58     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  8:02       ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  8:29         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:06       ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30  9:18         ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30  9:38         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:41           ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30  9:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:48               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:52                 ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30 10:02                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30 10:25                     ` Marvin Häuser [this message]
2023-05-31  7:13                       ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-31  8:05                         ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Add PCD NX policy bit for default NX state Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:54   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  8:33     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] ArmVirtPkg/ArmVirtQemu: Allow CPU arch protocol DXE to execute in place Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] ArmVirtPkg/ArmVirtQemu: Map all DRAM non-execute by default Ard Biesheuvel
2023-06-01 14:53 ` [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/11] Permit DXE drivers to execute in place Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-06-01 18:11   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-06-01 18:30     ` Oliver Smith-Denny

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