From: "Michael Brown" <mcb30@ipxe.org>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, ardb@kernel.org
Cc: pedro.falcato@gmail.com, jlotwo@gmail.com,
Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
Sami Mujawar <sami.mujawar@arm.com>, Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [RFC] Ordering of Arm PCI ECAM and MMIO operations
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 13:23:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0102018b8b0e1ca8-ce15d29c-2c0c-4982-9c45-be42ae53a1d6-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXFr85Phcs77i173fwx7qkUVGq0ss33=ecf8PcgAfO9kNg@mail.gmail.com>
On 01/11/2023 12:51, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 13:25, Michael Brown <mcb30@ipxe.org> wrote:
>> By my reading, the PCIe specification seems to therefore require
>> something stronger than an ordering guarantee: it requires the ability
>> for software to make a standalone determination that the write has
>> *completed*, independent of the existence of any subsequent I/O operations.
>
> indeed, thanks for bringing this up.
>
>> The PCIe specification does not mandate that any particular mechanism be
>> used, but it does require that the processor and/or host bridge provides
>> *some* mechanism for software to determine that the ECAM write has
>> completed.
>>
>> What mechanism does ARM (or the host bridge) provide to determine
>> completion of an ECAM write?
>
> A MMIO read of the same location should ensure that the MMIO write has
> completed by the time the read returns. Not sure whether or not there
> are any other requirements (e.g., wrt.the size of the read vs the size
> of the write).
That seems to suggest that a logical PCIe configuration space write
operation using ECAM should probably always comprise:
1. ECAM write
2. ECAM read from the same location (using the same size)
If reads are not allowed to have side effects (e.g. read-clear
registers) then this seems safe. The PCIe specification "Configuration
Register Types" list comprises (in version 3.0, at least):
HwInit - read-only, no read side effects
RO - read-only, no read side effects
RW - read-write, no read side effects
RW1C - write 1 to clear bits, no read side effects
ROS - read-only, no read side effects
RWS - read-write, no read side effects
RW1CS - write 1 to clear bits, no read side effects
RsvdP - read-write, no read side effects
RsvdZ - read-write, no read side effects
So, unless newer versions of the PCIe specification have allowed for the
existence of configuration register types with read side effects, then
the approach of always reading back from ECAM seems to be safe for any
conforming PCIe device.
I would therefore suggest that all ECAM driver implementation functions
in EDK2 (e.g. PciExpressWrite32(), PciExpressOr32(),
PciSegmentWrite32(), etc) be updated to add the relevant ECAM read
following the write operation.
PCI configuration space writes are never fast-path operations (in any
sane hardware), and so the delay introduced by the read should not be
significant.
Does this seem like a sensible solution?
Thanks,
Michael
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-01 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-31 23:24 [edk2-devel] [RFC] Ordering of Arm PCI ECAM and MMIO operations Joe L
2023-11-01 2:09 ` Pedro Falcato
2023-11-01 9:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-11-01 12:25 ` Michael Brown
2023-11-01 12:51 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-11-01 13:23 ` Michael Brown [this message]
2023-11-01 16:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-11-01 20:17 ` Joe L
2023-11-01 21:51 ` Michael Brown
2023-11-01 23:07 ` Pedro Falcato
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