From: "Michael Kubacki" <mikuback@linux.microsoft.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, ardb@kernel.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Oliver Steffen <osteffen@redhat.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
Daniel Schaefer <git@danielschaefer.me>,
Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com>,
Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
Rahul Kumar <rahul1.kumar@intel.com>, Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>,
Sami Mujawar <sami.mujawar@arm.com>,
Sunil V L <sunilvl@ventanamicro.com>,
Zhiguang Liu <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
Taylor Beebe <t@taylorbeebe.com>,
Oliver Smith-Denny <osd@smith-denny.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ArmPkg: Add Pcd to disable EFI_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:53:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <02ea7825-8b4e-2d0c-4658-aab179c2fd5b@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXFeWJuE93=dLwRNjQyRGXc0vUmd=yZ3aXMHQm-3zEk=Tg@mail.gmail.com>
We recently encountered this issue as well.
For reference, some details are in this issue:
https://github.com/microsoft/mu_silicon_arm_tiano/issues/124
Specifically, this comment:
https://github.com/microsoft/mu_silicon_arm_tiano/issues/124#issuecomment-1593550704
On 6/20/2023 9:16 AM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 12:33 Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com
> <mailto:kraxel@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:32:25PM +0200, Oliver Steffen wrote:
> > Recent versions of shim (15.6 and 15.7) crash when the newly added
> > EFI_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL is provided by the firmware. To allow
> > existing installations to boot, provide a workaround in form of a Pcd
> > that allows tuning it off at build time (defaults to 'enabled').
>
> Background: We have untested + broken code for
> EFI_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL support in the listed shim releases.
>
> Now that firmware starts to actually provide that protocol the
> time bomb explodes.
>
>
>
> Fantastic.
>
> This is kind of a big deal, really, and just turning it off for
> ArmVirtQemu does not help at all with the fact that these shim builds
> will crash on any platform that implements the protocol. (Including x86)
>
> Given that secure boot is kind of pointless on this particular platform
> anyway, maybe this is a good opportunity to make shim optional in the
> boot chain? I understand that this does not fix existing builds but shim
> proves to be such a problematic component that you really should not be
> using it if there is no need.
>
> As for the protocol, this has its own set of problems, and the bug in
> question can partly be blamed on the misdesigned api, which has separate
> set and clear methods. Not only does this force the implementation to
> traverse the page tables twice for the common case of switching between
> RO and XP or vice versa, it also means we lose any transactional
> properties of a RO <-> XP switch. I.e., if we could make it the
> implementation's responsibility to ensure that such a transformation
> either completes successfully, or otherwise, doesn't make any
> modifications at all, the risk of ending up in a limbo state is reduced
> significantly.
>
> So maybe there is still opportunity for specifying a MemoryAttributes2
> protocol with a single method for set and clear? We could just drop the
> current one in that case.
>
> In any case, while i can see how this patch helps make all your ci
> status icons turn green again, it does so by papering over the
> underlying issue so I'm not a fan.
>
>
>
>
>
> > --- a/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.dec
> > +++ b/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.dec
> > @@ -172,6 +172,9 @@ [PcdsFixedAtBuild.common]
> >
> gArmTokenSpaceGuid.PcdCpuVectorBaseAddress|0xffff0000|UINT64|0x00000004
> > gArmTokenSpaceGuid.PcdCpuResetAddress|0x00000000|UINT32|0x00000005
> >
> > + # Enable/Disable EFI_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL
> > +
> gArmTokenSpaceGuid.PcdEnableEfiMemoryAttributeProtocol|TRUE|BOOLEAN|0x000000EE
> > +
> > #
> > # ARM Secure Firmware PCDs
> > #
>
> Given that I expect we will run into the very same problem on x64 as
> soon as EFI_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL gets enabled there we should
> probably define the PCD in MdePkg not ArmPkg (which implies splitting
> the patch into a mini series with one MdePkg and one ArmPkg patch).
>
> take care,
> Gerd
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-20 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-19 20:32 [PATCH 1/1] ArmPkg: Add Pcd to disable EFI_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PROTOCOL Oliver Steffen
2023-06-20 9:32 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-06-20 13:16 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-06-20 14:53 ` Michael Kubacki [this message]
2023-06-20 16:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-06-20 17:06 ` [edk2-devel] " Sean
2023-06-23 16:26 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-06-23 19:32 ` Sean
2023-10-05 6:31 ` Nhi Pham via groups.io
2023-10-05 8:23 ` Laszlo Ersek
2023-10-05 10:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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