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From: "Rebecca Cran" <rebecca@bsdio.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, spbrogan@outlook.com, bob.c.feng@intel.com,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>, Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>,
	Michael Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [Patch 1/1] EmulatorPkg/PlatformCI: stick with "ubuntu-18.04" for now
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:54:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0969A633-BBB9-4664-A90D-7AA45324554E@bsdio.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20fb818b-ddb2-54ee-50b1-c22baa878bed@redhat.com>

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Given they still support Ubuntu 16.04 (https://github.com/actions/virtual-environments), I suspect 18.04 will be supported until the upstream EOL in 2023.

— 
Rebeca Cran 

> On Jan 8, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 01/08/21 19:14, Rebecca Cran wrote:
>>> On 1/8/21 11:01 AM, Sean wrote:
>>> 
>>> Question to the community (especially those using a Linux environment)
>>> is what priority should it be to go resolve these and update CI to run
>>> on Ubuntu 20.04?  General premise is we should stay current without
>>> being bleeding edge but I want to understand other perspectives.
>> 
>> From previous discussions, it sounds like we did want to be on the
>> bleeding edge - which I personally think is a bad idea, since breaking
>> changes can come in at the worst time.
>> 
>> Instead, we should stay on a stable release but watch out for newer
>> versions and move forward to them after applying any fixes.
>> 
> 
> I'm all for sticking with stable artifacts, but:
> 
> - we don't know *how long* the github.com/actions organization intends
> to support the 18.04 LTS image
> 
> - the breakage with 20.04 LTS indeed hit us at a bad time, but at least
> we had something to fall back to. If we switch to the oldest supported
> VM image, as a permanent choice, then, when that image loses support,
> we'll only be able to escape *forward* -- and *that* is an even worse
> experience.
> 
> It's always the same problem -- production users always want *someone
> else* to test out the new release for them.
> 
> Instead, what I would really welcome here is if we exempted edk2 patches
> that tweaked the CI configuration from the usual patch review process.
> Delaying an actual edk2 patch because its review is not complete --
> that's fine, that's how development works. On the other hand, blocking
> the *merging* of an otherwise reviewed patch, just because the CI system
> is broken again, is an *outrage*. Having to submit *further patches to
> review* -- this time for the CI config itself --, in order to mitigate
> the CI breakage, is a completely broken workflow.
> 
> Laszlo
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-08 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-21  3:19 [Patch 1/1] EmulatorPkg/PlatformCI: stick with "ubuntu-18.04" for now Bob Feng
2020-12-21 13:47 ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-12-21 14:05   ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-12-21 14:53 ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-12-22  0:04   ` Bob Feng
2021-01-08 18:01   ` Sean
2021-01-08 18:14     ` Rebecca Cran
2021-01-08 18:34       ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-01-08 18:54         ` Rebecca Cran [this message]
     [not found]         ` <1658569DBC96D253.25961@groups.io>
2021-01-08 20:20           ` Rebecca Cran
2021-01-11  8:24             ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-01-08 18:21     ` Laszlo Ersek

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