From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: devel@edk2.groups.io
From: "Purma, Kondal R" <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>
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Hi,

The draft specification for EDK II Python development process for presenta=
tion made earlier now available .

Presentation thread :

https://edk2.groups.io/g/announce/message/92

Wiki Page link for specification document:

https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II-Draft-Specifi=
cation

GitBook link for specification document:

https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk-ii-python-development-process-speicficat=
ion

PDF version can be downloaded from:

https://legacy.gitbook.com/download/pdf/book/edk2-docs/edk-ii-python-devel=
opment-process-speicfication

Draft version available for 2 week review period and seeking for feedback.

Thanks,

Kondal.

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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;The draft specification for EDK II Python =
development process for presentation made earlier now available .</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;Presentation thread :</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a style=3D"background-color: #fffff=
f;" href=3D"https://edk2.groups.io/g/announce/message/92">https://edk2.grou=
ps.io/g/announce/message/92</a><br /><br /></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;Wiki Page link for specification document:=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<a style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;" hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II-Draft-Sp=
ecification">https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II-D=
raft-Specification</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">GitBook link for specification document:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk-ii-=
python-development-process-speicfication">https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk=
-ii-python-development-process-speicfication</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">PDF version can be downloaded from:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<a style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;" hr=
ef=3D"https://legacy.gitbook.com/download/pdf/book/edk2-docs/edk-ii-python-=
development-process-speicfication">https://legacy.gitbook.com/download/pdf/=
book/edk2-docs/edk-ii-python-development-process-speicfication</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Draft version available for 2 week review period=
 and seeking for feedback.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Kondal.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>

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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: Purma, Kondal R <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>,devel@edk2.groups.io
From: "Sean" <sean.brogan@microsoft.com>
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This looks fine but it seems focused on writing a new module/project.=C2=A0=
 Most python work going into edk2 is part of existing code.
I would like to see additional documentation about how this applies to edk=
2 basetools.

* A flake8 config file could be added to basetools python.
* Documentation of developer workflows with edk2 basetools
* A plan for how to get edk2 basetools to meet these requirements
* A plan for automated patch verification of meeting these rules.

I have a rule of thumb for code guidelines.=C2=A0 I don't make any rules u=
nless I can enforce them without un-manageable burden.

I also would rather see this type of documentation in the basetools python=
 folder.=C2=A0 There is no reason a developer should have to go looking for=
 this somewhere else within the tianocore site.

Finally, I would suggest we leverage an auto-formatter and provide the con=
fig file for that.=C2=A0 This reduces significant burden on the developer a=
nd keeps all contributes aligned.

Thanks
Sean

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This looks fine but it seems focused on writing a new module/project.&nbsp;=
 Most python work going into edk2 is part of existing code.&nbsp; <br />I w=
ould like to see additional documentation about how this applies to edk2 ba=
setools.<br /><br />* A flake8 config file could be added to basetools pyth=
on.&nbsp; <br />* Documentation of developer workflows with edk2 basetools<=
br />* A plan for how to get edk2 basetools to meet these requirements<br /=
>* A plan for automated patch verification of meeting these rules.<br /><br=
 />I have a rule of thumb for code guidelines.&nbsp; I don't make any rules=
 unless I can enforce them without un-manageable burden.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><=
br />I also would rather see this type of documentation in the basetools py=
thon folder.&nbsp; There is no reason a developer should have to go looking=
 for this somewhere else within the tianocore site.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />=
Finally, I would suggest we leverage an auto-formatter and provide the conf=
ig file for that.&nbsp; This reduces significant burden on the developer an=
d keeps all contributes aligned.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />Thanks<br />Sean

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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: Sean <sean.brogan@microsoft.com>,devel@edk2.groups.io
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Thanks for feedback an your are exactly right. This applies for new module/=
project and every point you mentioned is valid.

We should also make sure these rules applies to bug fixes, or code adding =
as feature in existing files.

I raised all these question my self and taken initial step.

As a first step,=C2=A0 developed wrapper tool (POC) to apply flake8 on pat=
ches only which we can immediately adopt to Basetools etc..

Along with the POC tool(if possible we can make as flake8 plugin) , I will=
 come up with presentation to address all our concerns. We can review and f=
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Thanks for feedback an your are exactly right. This applies for new module/=
project and every point you mentioned is valid.<br /><br />We should also m=
ake sure these rules applies to bug fixes, or code adding as feature in exi=
sting files.<br /><br />I raised all these question my self and taken initi=
al step.<br /><br />As a first step,&nbsp; developed wrapper tool (POC) to =
apply flake8 on patches only which we can immediately adopt to Basetools et=
c..<br /><br />Along with the POC tool(if possible we can make as flake8 pl=
ugin) , I will come up with presentation to address all our concerns. We ca=
n review and finalize the best practices.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kondal.

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Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
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=EF=BB=BFI just noticed a typo on the page about python tools: the heading =
says Falke8 instead of Flake8.

=E2=80=94=20
Rebecca Cran

>> On Mar 6, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Purma, Kondal R <kondal.r.purma@intel.com> =
wrote:
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi,
>=20
>  The draft specification for EDK II Python development process for prese=
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>=20
>  
>=20
>  Presentation thread :
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>  
>=20
>   https://edk2.groups.io/g/announce/message/92
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>  
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>  Wiki Page link for specification document:
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>=20
>  https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II-Draft-Spec=
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>=20
>  
>=20
>  
>=20
> GitBook link for specification document:
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> https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk-ii-python-development-process-speicfic=
ation
>=20
>  
>=20
> PDF version can be downloaded from:
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velopment-process-speicfication
>=20
>  
>=20
>  
>=20
> Draft version available for 2 week review period and seeking for feedbac=
k.
>=20
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>=20
> Thanks,
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quiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I just noticed=
 a typo on the page about python tools: the heading says Falke8 instead of =
Flake8.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=94&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rebec=
ca Cran</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 6, 2020,=
 at 5:27 PM, Purma, Kondal R &lt;kondal.r.purma@intel.com&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<p =
class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;The draft specification for EDK II Python =
development process for presentation made earlier now available .</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;Presentation thread :</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a style=3D"background-color: #fffff=
f;" href=3D"https://edk2.groups.io/g/announce/message/92">https://edk2.grou=
ps.io/g/announce/message/92</a><br><br></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;Wiki Page link for specification document:=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<a style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;" hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II-Draft-Sp=
ecification">https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II-D=
raft-Specification</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">GitBook link for specification document:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk-ii-=
python-development-process-speicfication">https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk=
-ii-python-development-process-speicfication</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">PDF version can be downloaded from:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<a style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;" hr=
ef=3D"https://legacy.gitbook.com/download/pdf/book/edk2-docs/edk-ii-python-=
development-process-speicfication">https://legacy.gitbook.com/download/pdf/=
book/edk2-docs/edk-ii-python-development-process-speicfication</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Draft version available for 2 week review period=
 and seeking for feedback.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Kondal.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>



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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: Purma, Kondal R <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>,devel@edk2.groups.io
From: "Purma, Kondal R" <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>
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Thanks for feedback so far. Reminder to get more valuable feedback if any, =
to address before enforcing this spec next week.
Plan is to make=C2=A0 initial version of spec along with other specificati=
ons and start working on Sean feedback and how to start enforcing the speci=
fication.

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Thanks for feedback so far. Reminder to get more valuable feedback if any, =
to address before enforcing this spec next week.&nbsp;<br />Plan is to make=
&nbsp; initial version of spec along with other specifications and start wo=
rking on Sean feedback and how to start enforcing the specification.

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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: Purma, Kondal R <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>,devel@edk2.groups.io
From: "Bob Feng" <bob.c.feng@intel.com>
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Hi Kondal=C2=A0,

I agree the coding guidelines and tools can help improve the python code q=
uality, but I think these guidelines in this spec are too general for BaseT=
ools. Besides the coding style,=C2=A0 BaseTools has many specific code issu=
es, such as the high coupling between modules, not clear module interface, =
big function with hundreds lines, abused global variables. I hope there cou=
ld be a python code design guidelines, for example, how to apply the softwa=
re design principle or the software design pattern in the Basetools develop=
ment process.

I think this spec itself looks good.

Thanks,
Bob

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Hi Kondal&nbsp;,<br /><br />I agree the coding guidelines and tools can hel=
p improve the python code quality, but I think these guidelines in this spe=
c are too general for BaseTools. Besides the coding style,&nbsp; BaseTools =
has many specific code issues, such as the high coupling between modules, n=
ot clear module interface, big function with hundreds lines, abused global =
variables. I hope there could be a python code design guidelines, for examp=
le, how to apply the software design principle or the software design patte=
rn in the Basetools development process.<br /><br />I think this spec itsel=
f looks good.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Bob

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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: Bob Feng <bob.c.feng@intel.com>,devel@edk2.groups.io
From: "Purma, Kondal R" <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>
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Thanks for the feedback and your view points Bob. I totally agree on your p=
oints and the=C2=A0 base tools issues.
I think together we can fix the issues you mentioned and apply best softwa=
re design principles to=C2=A0 base tools .

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Thanks for the feedback and your view points Bob. I totally agree on your p=
oints and the&nbsp; base tools issues. <br />I think together we can fix th=
e issues you mentioned and apply best software design principles to&nbsp; b=
ase tools .

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From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] EDK II Python development process specification -draft
To: Purma, Kondal R <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>,devel@edk2.groups.io
From: "Purma, Kondal R" <kondal.r.purma@intel.com>
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Thanks for all feedback received so far. As the review and feedback period =
is over, moving forward to fix the bugs and announce first official release=
 of EDK II Python Development Process specification.
Thank you all.

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Thanks for all feedback received so far. As the review and feedback period =
is over, moving forward to fix the bugs and announce first official release=
 of EDK II Python Development Process specification.<br />Thank you all.

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