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From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, kraxel@redhat.com,
	"Brian J. Johnson" <brian.johnson@hpe.com>
Cc: "West, Catharine" <catharine.west@intel.com>,
	"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>, "Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>,
	"Wu, MingliangX" <mingliangx.wu@intel.com>,
	"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"Xue, Shengfeng" <xueshengfeng@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Dong, Eric" <eric.dong@intel.com>,
	"Kumar, Rahul R" <rahul.r.kumar@intel.com>,
	"De, Debkumar" <debkumar.de@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V1 1/1] UefiCpuPkg/ResetVector: Cache Disable should not be set by default in CR0
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:13:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1708ba2b-c969-ee8a-2cbe-fdc9acd31998@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3lxerlg6g5gbzsxyh2v4qqqxru34ewytbge2wm6s7quyx3itx6@xlajojgm73qe>

On 1/23/24 11:52, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Brian J. Johnson wrote:
>> On 1/18/24 09:46, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 04:43:47PM +0000, West, Catharine wrote:
>>>> Disabling cache by default results in violation of BTG protections (if BTG enabled).
>>>> BIOS cannot assume that cache is disabled before it executes as ACM may be required to enable NEM.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever solution needs to be done here cannot evict ACM-enabled NEM.
>>>
>>> Well, it's OVMF in a virtual machine.  No boot guard involved.
>>> So we could probably go for a OVMF-specific patch here.
>>>
>>> But I'd prefer to figure what exactly is happening here before going
>>> down that route.  An extreme slowdown just because we flip that bit
>>> doesn't make sense to me.
>>>
>>>> Why is boot time increasing?
>>>
>>> Not clear.  It seems to be the lzma uncompress of the firmware volume
>>> in rom / pflash which is very slow.  Also it is apparently only
>>> triggered in case pci device assignment is used.
>>
>> I've seen extreme slowness on physical platforms when we've mixed up the
>> MTRRs or page tables, causing code to be mapped uncached.
>>
>> Lzma uncompress of ROM could be pretty slow as well, if the ROM is being
>> read uncached.  Lzma probably reads the data a byte at a time, which is the
>> worst case for uncached accesses.  Since this is a VM, it's not actually
>> uncached at the hardware level, but I don't know how QEMU/KVM handles
>> uncached guest mappings.... It may be doing a VMEXIT for every byte.
>>
>> Anyway, I suggest double-checking your page tables and MTRRs.
> 
> It happens very early at boot, before MTRRs are setup, running on the
> initial page tables created by the OVMF reset vector.  The initial page
> tables have just 'accessed', 'dirty', 'read/write' and 'present' bits
> set for the 0-4G identity mapping.
> 
> It seems to have something to do with EPT.  It does not happen on AMD
> processors.  It also does not happen when disabling EPT support in kvm
> on the host machine.
> 
> looked at kvm kernel traces, I don't see excessive vmexits.

This discussion evokes vague memories in me. I'll dump them here, but I
have no idea if they will be useful. (They probably won't.)

- edk2 commit 98f378a7be12 ("OvmfPkg/ResetVector: enable caching in
initial page tables", 2013-09-24)

- Linux (host) commit 879ae1880449 ("KVM: x86: obey
KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED in kvm_set_cr0()", 2015-11-04)

Laszlo



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-23 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-26  9:47 [edk2-devel] [PATCH V1 1/1] UefiCpuPkg/ResetVector: Cache Disable should not be set by default in CR0 xueshengfeng via groups.io
2023-07-26  9:55 ` Ni, Ray
     [not found] ` <177562550EF0534C.27380@groups.io>
2023-08-03  8:14   ` Ni, Ray
2024-01-10  7:51     ` Min Xu
2024-01-10 16:43       ` West, Catharine
2024-01-18 15:46         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-01-22 19:11           ` Brian J. Johnson
2024-01-23  5:01             ` Min Xu
2024-01-23 10:52             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-01-23 14:13               ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2024-01-23 16:11                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-01-24  3:06                   ` Min Xu
2024-01-24 12:49                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-24 13:26                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-01-24 14:45                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-24 17:11                         ` Gerd Hoffmann

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