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From: "Sami Mujawar" <sami.mujawar@arm.com>
To: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
Cc: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Liu, Zhiguang" <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Lu, Ken" <ken.lu@intel.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:51:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1D8947D6-304B-4945-9B34-B7779B895DC8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR11MB48854E391CC4EA631960128B8CBC9@PH0PR11MB4885.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jiewen,

I will start providing the feedback for this series starting today. 
I may need some help to understand the sequence of the various patch series that enable this feature and would be grateful if you could point me to a Github branch that I can refer.

Regards,

Sami Mujawar

On 18/10/2021, 14:06, "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:

    Sure. It works fine.

    May I know *when* I can get your initial feedback ?
    I hope in days or 1 or 2 weeks.

    I don’t want to wait for several months, as we have features depend upon it.

    Thank you
    Yao Jiewen

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>
    > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:00 PM
    > To: Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; Xu, Min M
    > <min.m.xu@intel.com>
    > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
    > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>; Wang,
    > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
    > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
    > 
    > Hi Jiewen,
    > 
    > We don't have publicly available documentation to share in this area, however
    > we strongly prefer an architecture agnostic solution, and my initial suggestions
    > takes us in that direction. I am happy to work on mailing list with you to make
    > these changes and review necessary code changes. Does that work for you?
    > 
    > Regards,
    > 
    > Sami Mujawar
    > 
    > On 14/10/2021, 17:01, "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:
    > 
    >     Hi Sami
    >     To clarify my description:
    >     I am OK to define it in an architecture neutral protocol, such as
    > EFI_TEE_MEASUREMENT_PROTOCOL, or EFI_CCAM_PROTOCOL. I am happy to
    > do that.
    > 
    >     However, at current point of time, I am not sure how other arch supports
    > those feature, such as
    >     AMD SEV (https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/56860.pdf), or ARM
    > Realm (https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0615/latest/). I did not
    > find runtime measurement there.
    > 
    >     I hope SEV/Realm people to propose what interface change is required. I am
    > happy to discuss the solution here.
    > 
    >     Thank you
    >     Yao Jiewen
    > 
    > 
    >     > -----Original Message-----
    >     > From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yao,
    > Jiewen
    >     > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:59 PM
    >     > To: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>; Sami Mujawar
    >     > <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io
    >     > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
    >     > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>;
    > Wang,
    >     > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
    > <nd@arm.com>
    >     > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
    >     >
    >     > Hi Sami
    >     > I am not sure if I can understand your comment -
    >     > "Some interfaces may need to use an architecture specific library, and some
    >     > configuration options would need to be defined using PCDs."
    >     >
    >     > Would you please be more specific?
    >     >
    >     > Thank you
    >     > Yao Jiewen
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > > -----Original Message-----
    >     > > From: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>
    >     > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:41 PM
    >     > > To: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io;
    > Yao,
    >     > > Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
    >     > > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
    >     > > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>;
    > Wang,
    >     > > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
    >     > <nd@arm.com>
    >     > > Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
    >     > >
    >     > > On October 12, 2021 11:27 PM, Sami Mujawar wrote:
    >     > > > Hi Min,
    >     > > >
    >     > > > Thank you for this patch.
    >     > > >
    >     > > > I think it would greatly help if the EFI_TD_PROTOCOL is changed to
    >     > something
    >     > > > more architecture neutral. As I understand, this patch series is removing
    > the
    >     > > > dependency on TPM for measurement and is instead providing a
    > lightweight
    >     > > > interface for extending measurements for Confidential Compute
    >     > Architecture
    >     > > > (CCA) guests.
    >     > > >
    >     > > > Considering this, it would be good to generalise EFI_TD_PROTOCOL as a
    >     > > > Confidential Compute Architecture Measurement (CCAM) protocol.
    >     > > > In fact, your v2 series demonstrates this need with the introduction of
    >     > > > MEASURE_BOOT_PROTOCOLS in "[PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support
    >     > > > TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib
    >     > > > [https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/81651]".
    >     > > >
    >     > > > As it stands, I feel most of the code can be reused/common.  Some
    >     > interfaces
    >     > > > may need to use an architecture specific library, and some configuration
    >     > > > options would need to be defined using PCDs.
    >     > > >
    >     > > > Kindly let me know your thoughts.
    >     > > >
    >     > > Thanks for your comments.  Let me first discuss your feedback with our
    >     > > architecture. We will reply to your proposal a bit later.
    >     > >
    >     > > Thanks.
    >     > > Min
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > 
    >     >
    > 



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-19  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-08  5:21 [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Min Xu
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] MdePkg: Introduce TdProtocol for TD-Guest firmware Min Xu
2021-10-11  1:37   ` 回复: " gaoliming
2021-10-19 13:21   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 14:40     ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-20  9:26       ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:22   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-27  5:19     ` Min Xu
2021-11-01 13:35       ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpmMeasurementLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:24   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-12 15:26 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Sami Mujawar
2021-10-14  5:41   ` Min Xu
2021-10-14 11:59     ` Yao, Jiewen
     [not found]     ` <16ADE3D948B3147A.7007@groups.io>
2021-10-14 13:43       ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-18 12:59         ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-18 13:06           ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-19  9:51             ` Sami Mujawar [this message]
2021-10-19 13:06               ` Min Xu

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