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From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] OvmfPkg: don't assign PCI BARs above 4GiB when CSM enabled
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 21:01:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20006502-76ad-864a-97cb-0187cc44cf2a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b47ec57d-2c6f-7766-c5c4-b55edeb0a703@redhat.com>

On 06/27/19 20:43, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 06/27/19 18:36, Alexander Graf wrote:

>> That way we could have CSM enabled OVMF for everyone ;)
> 
> Well, as long as we're discussing "everyone": we should forget about the
> CSM altogether, in the long term. The CSM is a concession towards OSes
> that are stuck in the past; a concession that is hugely complex and
> difficult to debug & maintain. It is also incompatible with Secure Boot.
> Over time, we should spend less and less time & energy on the CSM. Just
> my opinion, of course. :)

To clarify -- this is by no means to say that *SeaBIOS* is a relic. I
absolutely don't imply that. Users should use the firmware they need,
especially in the virtual world, where choosing is really easy.

But the *CSM* is just an elaborate workaround for the user, to
circumvent a decision that a platform vendor made for him/her
unsolicitedly. In the virtual world in particular, I don't think such
workarounds should be necessary; the platform vendor should *please* the
user, and give them SeaBIOS directly, if they want that.

(Again, just my opinion -- I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't taking
a stab at SeaBIOS. That would be *foolish*.)

Thanks
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-27 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-27 16:36 [PATCH v3 4/4] OvmfPkg: don't assign PCI BARs above 4GiB when CSM enabled graf
2019-06-27 18:43 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-06-27 19:01   ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-06-27 19:16     ` David Woodhouse
2019-06-28 13:12       ` Laszlo Ersek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-06-26 11:37 [PATCH v3 0/4] OvmfPkg: CSM boot fixes David Woodhouse
2019-06-26 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] OvmfPkg: don't assign PCI BARs above 4GiB when CSM enabled David Woodhouse

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