Re: ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list configuration changes

[Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>]

Hi Mike,

That resolves the issue at my end, thanks!. But it would be good to
know how it works for others (does Intel have a default mail client
config, and could someone else verify the behaviour is how you would
normally expect?).

Regards,

Leif

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:40:06PM +0000, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> Hi Leif,
> 
> I can put the reply_goes_to_list option back to "Poster".
> 
> In that configuration, a user that has a DMARC policy of
> reject will still have their from address munged.
> 
> But I noticed that the edk2-devel mailing list is not
> present when anyone does a Reply-all to an email with
> a munged from address.  That implied to me that everyone
> would need to check if the edk2-devel mailing has been
> removed from a Reply-all and add it back manually.  This
> also seems like a non-ideal configuration option.
> 
> However, the behavior I am seeing could be due to some
> of my client settings.
> 
> So I will put the reply_goes_to_list option back to
> "Poster".
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:10 PM
> > To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > Cc: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>;
> > Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list
> > configuration changes
> > 
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > I could hypothesise about which email client you may be
> > using :)
> > 
> > But let me instead mention that the two email clients I
> > have (mutt and
> > gmail web interface) behave identically - neither adds
> > the original
> > sender to cc when the list server forces a reply-to
> > header.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Leif
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:49:09PM +0000, Kinney,
> > Michael D wrote:
> > > Leif,
> > >
> > > Very strange.  When I do the same on that email, it
> > > shows Paul on the To address line.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Leif Lindholm
> > [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:40 PM
> > > > To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>;
> > > > Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing
> > list
> > > > configuration changes
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > When I try to "reply-to", the email from Paul A
> > Lohr,
> > > > sent 10 minutes
> > > > after your one below, he does not show up in either
> > "to"
> > > > or "cc".
> > > >
> > > > OK, I missed the excitement during the plugfest.
> > I'll go
> > > > back and see
> > > > what I can find there.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Leif
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:23:43PM +0000, Kinney,
> > > > Michael D wrote:
> > > > > Leif,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have enabled a different configuration setting
> > > > > that should be better.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please try some emails and let me know if there
> > > > > are any impacts.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason for these changes is the DMARC related
> > > > > issue that occurred on 10-19-2018 that required a
> > > > > number of users to be disabled.  The goal of these
> > > > > changes is to enable those users to be re-
> > activated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Leif Lindholm
> > > > [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:54 PM
> > > > > > To: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Kinney, Michael D
> > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>;
> > > > > > Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel
> > mailing
> > > > list
> > > > > > configuration changes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:42:44PM +0000,
> > Kinney,
> > > > > > Michael D wrote:
> > > > > > > Some configuration changes have been made to
> > > > > > > the edk2-devel mailing list to handle posts
> > from
> > > > > > > a domain with a DMARC Reject/Quarantine policy
> > > > > > > enabled. If this is detected then the from
> > address
> > > > > > > is now munged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One side effect of this setting is that the
> > > > > > > behavior of Reply has changed.  Instead of
> > being
> > > > > > > a reply to the poster of the message, the
> > Reply
> > > > > > > address is the edk2-devel mailing list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The behaviour looks somewhat broken, since as
> > far as
> > > > I
> > > > > > can tell,
> > > > > > replies now longer include the person you're
> > > > replying
> > > > > > to.
> > > > > > (This doesn't happen when replying specifically
> > to
> > > > > > _you_, because you
> > > > > > cc yourself on everything).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you wish to send a private reply to only
> > the
> > > > > > > poster of the message, you may have to perform
> > > > > > > some manual steps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please let me know if you have any concerns
> > about
> > > > > > > these changes or if these configuration
> > changes
> > > > > > > cause any other side effects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we make sure the person being replied to is
> > at
> > > > least
> > > > > > on cc?
> > > > > > Otherwise, we've just broken the workflow for
> > anyone
> > > > > > filtering on
> > > > > > whether they are on "to" or "cc".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why was this change necessary?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leif