From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wm1-f41.google.com (mail-wm1-f41.google.com [209.85.128.41]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web11.7262.1583887387916344922 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:43:08 -0700 Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io; dkim=pass header.i=@nuviainc-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=b+yGuFUx; spf=pass (domain: nuviainc.com, ip: 209.85.128.41, mailfrom: leif@nuviainc.com) Received: by mail-wm1-f41.google.com with SMTP id n8so235736wmc.4 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:43:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nuviainc-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=7X2C+5H8HgtEJiQyE482gGdiZ5V5SnMYK+jxkkEQCbg=; b=b+yGuFUxFZi8Hb2fIyVT2mQY9M/K/CaRMLjG4hqImVBIoYjVHnNoAukHhKv/ECGM41 z4P3j2WAP02NgmwpR+5/WK1uOcOzPJ5XyCHQg4ezSii2XA3EL3qXW80nJ1eYudAwwqC1 CJdUFAgqqSjDdv86C3A4kaZ7Xt5GSriseo765i3U61zaGp+JobCzJZDQs9NqiSGUEXZc SSTZFqTpollPjrjqOa8JDZ+GsrtRRMDhfQo7h4cnSGd2yoIyW4GUmg860K4WDU0qTJHq YRDk/BTgYqvexVPYRidSPYDGkFaadF87AQV3CDdMlc33MoYcOgmxhjH5oVIuJ+Maozjw h5Sw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=7X2C+5H8HgtEJiQyE482gGdiZ5V5SnMYK+jxkkEQCbg=; b=XwiYACdlCqsMlI+5niZfC/kE0ImPqQjFO0TT7yRhxTwEjzuO+VeDld/hMWBeYWBY3X pTYE9JGcZLHxeNR8YRLrfF10dApGOAy1Gs5B1uHEiZis8x/nRnBGn3zAdXZQr8d7y3m+ a3JQTEjVZ6nHOAy5QR0Bzd5bQX3hG+O/OW2fx2Nk9N181HeYB77UbpKNcoOpvm2/c76e 49lCqIv3J8OgBTW3fyozU7u2YabfVTDWHyw20qFrirOO5nrVo0pZjfD94eei+gNz2PXx CGNZjgE5MhW7Uvs+IHNf4RED0ilW4HyikVY4PHnZoKjaJiOZ0CmSHSbxVs6tU99skQ3x 0Tcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ1LRUSaJmrmjeSTWH8sXFUpASPNxGI5lncvb3ZyqkQEGQhX2VWq DIf5f4dm4HDo3Wn1zkXGUSxSnUCU6yWCnQ3xt/PfP5I79phfaXzk5YnOADaWfwCgKk2wFY+62zF lpzDj0poSohOR7yJhHRnNV0V5o5p6qjRj5dHuuWOq5yHEXdD3JCcTNKucBm8cTio= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vv7jgGlM1WB4R4y3Tz9ktBhy0K1I9ScR+5Z31OGkLpEF0/96cxQSQs8mTUiQzRggFBa4qfVyA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:960c:: with SMTP id y12mr220591wmd.9.1583887385867; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from bivouac.eciton.net (bivouac.eciton.net. [2a00:1098:0:86:1000:23:0:2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b16sm65841223wrq.14.2020.03.10.17.43.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 00:43:03 +0000 From: "Leif Lindholm" To: devel@edk2.groups.io, sean.brogan@microsoft.com Cc: Ard Biesheuvel Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] Adding Bhyve support into upstream EDK2 Message-ID: <20200311004303.GJ23627@bivouac.eciton.net> References: <20173.1583734134875404839@groups.io> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20173.1583734134875404839@groups.io> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sean, On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 23:08:54 -0700, Sean via Groups.Io wrote: > Ard/Lazlo, > > I find your position on OvmfPkg, ArmVirtPkg,and edk2-platforms in > edk2 to be detrimental to the overall success of the edk2 project. > > The majority of edk2 consumers already have to deal with their > platform not being part of the edk2 git repo and the fact that > changes to edk2 may not work or cause conflict on their platforms. The community took the decision to include virtual platforms in edk2 in order to make it possible for anyone to build and test complete platform ports against the core tree. Referring to this as the position of Ard and Laszlo is out of line. I think you owe them both an apology. If you want to change that decision, I suggest you join in, become part of the community and try to change things from within rather than continuing to stand on the sidelines shouting "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG". / Leif