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From: "Leif Lindholm" <leif@nuviainc.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, michael.d.kinney@intel.com
Cc: "Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>,
	"Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>,
	"Michael Kubacki" <Michael.Kubacki@microsoft.com>,
	"mikuback@linux.microsoft.com" <mikuback@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"rebecca@nuviainc.com" <rebecca@nuviainc.com>,
	"Bret Barkelew" <Bret.Barkelew@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] Progress on getting Uncrustify working for EDK2?
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 23:23:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211109232338.z6qb5kk7yz3mc2em@leviathan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR11MB4929AA31225342659FA744B9D2929@CO1PR11MB4929.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 21:20:51 +0000, Michael D Kinney wrote:
> > > Setting up a development work environment also requires the installation of tools such as
> > > compilers, NASM, IASL, etc.  These are not handled as part of BaseTools today.
> > 
> > No, but users are not required to install a specific, not-yet-upstream
> > version of a tool. This is the fundamental problem here.
> > 
> > Once the edk2 support is available in upstream uncrustify, there is a
> > substantial lag in how the updated version trickles down through
> > packaging systems.
> 
> There is an RFC with no negative feedback to move to NASM 2.15.05.
> 
> I do not believe that is the version supported in all the distros
> packaging systems yet.

It is in current Debian stable. It is *not* in Ubuntu LTS.

> So I expect there will likely be many windows of time where the 
> EDK II projects have a dependency on a tool in that state.
> 
> If this was a significant concern, why was it not raised with the
> NASM 2.15.05?

I might have raised it if I had been actively tracking NASM usage, but
I'll confess I don't. But even then - that is talking about NASM
2.15.05, released August 2020, not NASM HEAD today with some
additional patches.

> > > Supporting this indent style is one of the enhancements in the fork.  If we want to align
> > > to one of the indent styles supported by a wider array of source editors/IDEs, then that
> > > would require a change to the EDK II Coding Style Specification and approval from the
> > > EDK II community.
> > 
> > Yes. The above problem of getting the tool at the appropriate version
> > is why I previously stated my preference as being to change to coding
> > style so it matched what was already supported in upstream uncrustify.
> 
> Stating a preference without specific details on the exact style that is
> actionable by developers and verifiable does not help close on this
> topic.

The preference was raised here only as the alternative to requiring
uncrustify modifications.

I stated the delta (with specific details) in my email on 7 October,
and yes, you responeded to that, but no one else seemed interested in
that path, so I didn't follow up.

> Can you provide the specific details and update the BZs provided in an
> earlier version of this thread:
> 
> 	https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/81609
> 
> If you are not able to provide details, but are rejecting this proposal all
> together, then please be clear that you are rejecting the proposal so those
> that are working on it can move on to other priorities.

As per above.

/
    Leif

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-09 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e15cf895-03a4-96cd-2754-d1cfeead6b98@nuviainc.com>
2021-08-16 19:34 ` Progress on getting Uncrustify working for EDK2? Rebecca Cran
2021-08-16 19:39   ` [edk2-devel] " Marvin Häuser
2021-08-16 20:00     ` Michael Kubacki
2021-10-07 10:48       ` Leif Lindholm
2021-10-07 15:30         ` Andrew Fish
     [not found]         ` <16ABC94F0E9D1AC5.21629@groups.io>
2021-10-07 16:03           ` Andrew Fish
2021-10-07 16:34             ` Michael D Kinney
2021-10-07 17:01               ` Michael Kubacki
2021-10-07 17:05         ` Michael D Kinney
2021-10-07 18:30         ` Marvin Häuser
2021-10-07 17:19           ` Michael D Kinney
2021-10-07 17:36             ` Andrew Fish
2021-10-07 17:43               ` Marvin Häuser
2021-10-07 21:09                 ` Andrew Fish
2021-11-09  0:23                   ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09  1:09                     ` Andrew Fish
2021-11-09  1:13                       ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09  2:46                         ` Andrew Fish
2021-11-09  3:02                           ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09  7:32                             ` Marvin Häuser
2021-11-09 15:43                               ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09 16:12                                 ` Marvin Häuser
2021-11-09 16:33                                   ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09 20:55                                     ` Leif Lindholm
2021-11-09 21:20                                       ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09 23:23                                         ` Leif Lindholm [this message]
2021-11-10 10:12                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-09  1:12                     ` 回复: " gaoliming
2021-11-09 15:22                       ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09  8:40                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-09 11:56                       ` Michael Brown
2021-11-09 12:36                       ` Leif Lindholm
2021-11-09 14:10                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-09 15:44                           ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-10 15:38                             ` Michael Kubacki
2021-11-09 15:08                         ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09 18:13                           ` Andrew Fish
2021-11-09 18:26                             ` Michael D Kinney
2021-11-09 18:52                               ` Andrew Fish

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