From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Nhi Pham <nhi@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: "Andrew (EFI) Fish" <afish@apple.com>,
edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
"ardb+tianocore@kernel.org" <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] Memory Attribute for depex section
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 20:00:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20d8728f-daaa-51ed-18ad-3087695d21f1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGL8G6awADez4QTKjBa+CW-Q8QrCY4iFf6g7C5d-RrTgw@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/15/24 15:04, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 14:07, Nhi Pham <nhi@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/12/2024 4:45 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>> (Independently: I think that's a valid thing to do for *SMM* drivers,
>>> because the entry point functions of those drivers are permitted to use
>>> both SMM and DXE/UEFI protocols. But whether the same is valid for the
>>> *standalone* MM drivers -- that looks questionable. Standalone MM
>>> drivers should not depend on UEFI/DXE protocols ever, IIUC.)
>>>
>>>> 3) The issue is patching the grammar in place, why can’t we just make a
>>>> copy for the dispatcher grammer, and operate on the copy. Maybe via a
>>>> copy on 1st update strategy?
>>>
>>> Yes, copying the depex to the heap, and patching it there, was Nhi's #1
>>> fix proposal. I think that could be made work. But I'm not sure if the
>>> perf savings are worth the additional complexity. The heap allocation
>>> (where the writeable depex would exist) would have to be permanently
>>> associated with the loaded PE image -- because the dispatcher might need
>>> to reevaluate the depex across multiple rounds of dispatching. So that's
>>> a new field in some image-related structure, it also needs to be freed
>>> upon unload (?), what if the memory allocation fails during depex eval
>>> (just consider the depex to eval to FALSE?), etc. Doable, but hairy; not
>>> sure if the perf is worth that effort.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks so much, Laszlo for your valuable insights.
>>
>> The approach #1 works for me. I will do further check for your concerns
>> above.
>>
>> I'm trying your suggested patch and investigating the performance being
>> discussed here.
>>
>
> Not sure what approach #1 means,
(copying the depex to the heap, and maintaining it there, so that it can
be patched)
> but I'd prefer to just remove this
> optimization from standalone MM, given that not only a) it shouldn't
> have to deal with a large number of protocol GUIDs, but also b) the
> driver dispatch is much more straight-forward. (Typically, StMM
> drivers can be dispatched in the order they appear in the firmware
> volume, in which case each DEPEX is evaluated only once anyway)
Sounds like a promising basis for removing the optimization indeed!
Laszlo
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-08 10:11 [edk2-devel] Memory Attribute for depex section Nhi Pham via groups.io
2024-01-10 0:48 ` Nhi Pham via groups.io
2024-01-10 13:09 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-10 13:45 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-10 21:50 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-01-11 8:46 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-11 11:03 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-12 2:10 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-01-12 9:35 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-12 14:46 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-01-12 16:37 ` Michael D Kinney
2024-01-12 18:56 ` Andrew Fish via groups.io
2024-01-12 19:04 ` Michael D Kinney
2024-01-12 19:26 ` Andrew Fish via groups.io
2024-01-12 18:50 ` Andrew Fish via groups.io
2024-01-12 2:44 ` Andrew Fish via groups.io
2024-01-12 9:45 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-15 13:07 ` Nhi Pham via groups.io
2024-01-15 14:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-01-15 19:00 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2024-01-18 6:00 ` Nhi Pham via groups.io
2024-01-18 14:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-01-19 4:43 ` Nhi Pham via groups.io
2024-01-19 13:54 ` Laszlo Ersek
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