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From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ard.biesheuvel@arm.com>
To: Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, Pete Batard <pete@akeo.ie>,
	Andrei Warkentin <awarkentin@vmware.com>,
	Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud <Samer.El-Haj-Mahmoud@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ArmPkg/PlatformBootManagerLib: regenerate boot options on boot failure
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:30:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <249475b8-f7e9-4c59-35be-8fc34ed023b0@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200617143551.GP6739@vanye>

On 6/17/20 4:35 PM, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 14:59:45 +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>> Something like:
>>>>> "On entry, the UiApp instantiates the autogenerated boot options that
>>>>> we used to rely on - but it does not consume them. This breaks the
>>>>> unattended..."
>>>>
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>>> I assume the UiApp only ever *adds* entries, which is why checking
>>>>> number of entries is sufficient?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It only manages entries that it instantiated itself, but it may also remove
>>>> entries if the underlying hardware has disappeared.
>>>
>>> Hmm, that's a bit trickier then. I mean, it's unlikely, but I'm sure
>>> there's situations that could happen.
>>> Would we run the risk of getting bug reports like "system fails to
>>> boot from Ethernet when inifiniband switch powered off"? Or if some
>>> virtual devices presented by a BMC appear/disappear?
>>>
>>
>> If the boot entries are not refreshed, you will retain the old ones. So the
>> only way this could lead to a boot failure is when you rely on automatically
>> generated boot entries to device that disappear and reappear in a different
>> place, e.g., move a Ethernet PCIe card to a different slot. Note that USB
>> devices plugged into a different port will still work fine, though, as they
>> rely on the removable boot path in this case, which will be attempted anyway
>> before doing the UnableToBoot().
>>
>> Note that the failure mode here is being dropped into the menu, where before
>> you were always dropped into the Shell. The case we are trying to address
>> here is zero intervention network boot after putting the device into
>> circulation, and that should work correctly with this change: if the network
>> boot path did not exist before, it will be added, in which case the number
>> of boot options will increase.
> 
> OK. I'm not convinced we're not going to see a report of this
> somewhere down the line, but I think you've managed to convince me
> it's an unlikely enough situation, and a fallback, that we can bump it
> to then (and it *is* a behavioural improvement in all other cases).
> 
> Reviewed-by: Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>
> (with the commit message update)
> 

Merged as 2d233af64b8f73d1b1e138b302e6344f7c2e0f4e

Thanks all,

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-17 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-16 17:48 [PATCH] ArmPkg/PlatformBootManagerLib: regenerate boot options on boot failure Ard Biesheuvel
2020-06-16 21:40 ` Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud
2020-06-17 11:12 ` Leif Lindholm
2020-06-17 11:32   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-06-17 12:16     ` Leif Lindholm
2020-06-17 12:28       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-06-17 12:40         ` Leif Lindholm
2020-06-17 12:59           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-06-17 14:35             ` Leif Lindholm
2020-06-17 18:30               ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2020-06-17 13:44 ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-06-17 16:21 ` Andrei Warkentin
2020-06-17 18:18   ` Ard Biesheuvel

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