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From: "Vitaly Cheptsov" <cheptsov@ispras.ru>
To: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, "Wu, Hao A" <hao.a.wu@intel.com>,
	"Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Albecki, Mateusz" <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:46:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2653EB72-8FFE-47E1-8D1F-A6CD1D95044B@ispras.ru> (raw)
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Mike,

I understand that very well and thus the PCD rather than my original patch :)

Best,
Vitaly

> On 15 Dec 2020, at 22:41, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Vitaly,
>
> I am concerned about platforms that use this driver with this change outside your use case.
>
> Mike
>
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vitaly Cheptsov
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:40 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
>
> As long as we do not write to a RAID array it will not cause any issues, and we do not. So I do not see an issue here.
>
> Vitaly
> 
> 
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 22:00, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> What about platforms that are in RAID mode and have configured a RAID set.  Your suggested change could potentially corrupt data on those different systems.
>
> Mike
>
> From: Vitaly Cheptsov <cheptsov@ispras.ru> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:56 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
>
> Not correct, these systems do not have hard RAID support or anything alike. It is standard G45 from what I remember. I believe the vendor simply left the firmware supplier defaults or something alike as there is a way to use IDE mode but nothing for AHCI.
>
> Vitaly
> 
> 
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 21:09, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> So those types of systems must have a RAID enabled FW driver.  Right?  So the drives could be configured as a RAID set and using the patch you suggest below could corrupt data.
>
> It is difficult to support a change that could corrupt data.
>
> Mike
>
> From: Vitaly Cheptsov <cheptsov@ispras.ru> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:44 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
>
> Unfortunately not. That is basically the issue. When there is a preference, it is possible to ask the user to set it. However, for certain Dell machines, we have an issue with, it is not possible to select AHCI mode in the firmware preferences, and these users end up with unconfigurable RAID.
>
> Best regards,
> Vitaly
> 
> 
> 15 дек. 2020 г., в 20:41, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> написал(а):
>
> But do the systems allow the user to configure the FW that runs earlier?  Can you require to users to configure their platforms correctly?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vitaly Cheptsov
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:34 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I believe Intel SATA controllers have non-standard lockdown bits, which do not let you reconfigure them as soon as the initialisation is over. Since we start much later (outside of the firmware), we can no longer control this.
>
> Best regards,
> Vitaly
> 
> 
> 
> 15 дек. 2020 г., в 19:58, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> написал(а):
>
> Hi Vitaly,
>
> Can you please explain why the controller can not be configured in a non-RAID mode?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vitaly Cheptsov
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:58 AM
> To: Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io
> Cc: Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
>
> Hello,
>
> 1. Could you help to change the BZ tracker https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3118 to a "Tiano Feature Requests"?
> For me, it looks more like a feature request.
>
> Sure, done.
>
> 2. Could you help to include 'AtaAtapiPassThru' in the BZ tracker subject for better reference?
>
> Also done.
>
> 3. For Patch 2/2, is there any reason to clear the bits:
> EFI_ATA_PASS_THRU_ATTRIBUTES_PHYSICAL
> EFI_EXT_SCSI_PASS_THRU_ATTRIBUTES_PHYSICAL
> If the drives are intended to be used as non-RAID devices, I think both the ATTRIBUTES_PHYSICAL & ATTRIBUTES_LOGICAL should be set for the controller according to the UEFI Spec.
>
> I am not quite positive why this was needed (the patch was prepared a few months ago), but I will make a comment in V2 when we test it on real hardware. I think it was required to take the right path in the driver.
>
> DuetPkg was removed from edk2.
> If the change is specially for DUET use case, I am afraid we cannot accept this change.
>
> This is not the DuetPkg from EDK II, but ours[1]. Thus your claim does not apply.
>
> I agree it would be better to configure the platform so the SATA controller is in its non-RAID mode.
>
> Agree, but in this case it is not feasible.
>
> If the controller is in RAID mode, then the OS that is booted may have a SATA RAID driver
> that can configure the drives in RAID mode.  Then, if the UEFI FW treats it as non RAID, it
> may not be bootable, and configuration actions in UEFI may corrupt data on the RAID configured
> drives.  For this reason, I am not in favor of adding a PCD.
>
> Actually some operating systems have to introduce workarounds for this as well, and no, in this particular case the OS does not treat the drive as RAID either.
>
> If there are no other review comments besides the attributes, I will proceed with V2 in the coming days.
>
> Best regards,
> Vitaly
>
> [1] https://github.com/acidanthera/OpenCorePkg
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 15 дек. 2020 г., в 06:54, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> написал(а):
>
> I agree it would be better to configure the platform so the SATA controller is in its non-RAID mode.
> 
> If the controller is in RAID mode, then the OS that is booted may have a SATA RAID driver
> that can configure the drives in RAID mode.  Then, if the UEFI FW treats it as non RAID, it
> may not be bootable, and configuration actions in UEFI may corrupt data on the RAID configured
> drives.  For this reason, I am not in favor of adding a PCD.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wu, Hao A
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 5:53 PM
> To: Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; cheptsov@ispras.ru
> Cc: Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:45 AM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io; cheptsov@ispras.ru
> Cc: Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>;
> Albecki, Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek
> <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe:
> Add support for drives in RAID mode
> 
> DuetPkg was removed from edk2.
> If the change is specially for DUET use case, I am afraid we cannot accept this
> change.
> 
> Hao,
> Can this change benefit a general use case?
> 
> 
> Hello Ray,
> 
> My understanding to the proposed PCD is that drives behind a RAID mode SATA controller can be configured to working in
> non-RAID mode (acting like individual drives).
> 
> As for the DuetPkg, below is a previous comment from Vitaly:
> "there is no firmware preference for that (Hao: configure the controller to non-RAID mode). The firmware does not support
> UEFI, and we are running through DuetPkg."
> 
> Best Regards,
> Hao Wu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ray
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vitaly
> Cheptsov
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 5:25 PM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io
> Cc: Vitaly Cheptsov <cheptsov@ispras.ru>; Wang, Jian J
> <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Albecki,
> Mateusz <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Subject: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe:
> Add
> 
> 
> 
> support for drives in RAID mode
> 
> REF: https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3118
> 
> This resolves the problem of using drivers connected to Intel G33
> builtin SATA controller when run from DuetPkg when it can only be
> configured in RAID mode through the firmware settings.
> 
> Cc: Jian J Wang <jian.j.wang@intel.com>
> Cc: Hao A Wu <hao.a.wu@intel.com>
> Cc: Mateusz Albecki <mateusz.albecki@intel.com>
> Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Cheptsov <cheptsov@ispras.ru>
> ---
> MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/SataControllerDxe/SataController.c | 4 ++--
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/SataControllerDxe/SataController.c
> b/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/SataControllerDxe/SataController.c
> index ab06e2833c..301335c967 100644
> --- a/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/SataControllerDxe/SataController.c
> +++ b/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/SataControllerDxe/SataController.c
> @@ -324,7 +324,7 @@ SataControllerSupported (
>     return EFI_UNSUPPORTED;
>   }
> 
> -  if (IS_PCI_IDE (&PciData) || IS_PCI_SATADPA (&PciData)) {
> +  if (IS_PCI_IDE (&PciData) || IS_PCI_SATADPA (&PciData) ||
> + IS_PCI_RAID (&PciData)) {
>     return EFI_SUCCESS;
>   }
> 
> @@ -465,7 +465,7 @@ SataControllerStart (
>   if (IS_PCI_IDE (&PciData)) {
>     Private->IdeInit.ChannelCount = IDE_MAX_CHANNEL;
>     Private->DeviceCount          = IDE_MAX_DEVICES;
> -  } else if (IS_PCI_SATADPA (&PciData)) {
> +  } else if (IS_PCI_SATADPA (&PciData) || IS_PCI_RAID (&PciData)) {
>     //
>     // Read Ports Implemented(PI) to calculate max port number (0 based).
>     //
> --
> 2.24.3 (Apple Git-128)
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-15 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-11  9:25 [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: Add support for drives in RAID mode Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-11  9:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] MdeModulePkg/AtaAtapiPassThru: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-14  6:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] MdeModulePkg/SataControllerDxe: " Wu, Hao A
2020-12-14  7:33   ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-14  7:56     ` [edk2-devel] " Wu, Hao A
2020-12-14  8:28       ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-15  1:28         ` Wu, Hao A
2020-12-15  1:44 ` Ni, Ray
2020-12-15  1:52   ` Wu, Hao A
2020-12-15  3:54     ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-15  8:58       ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-15 11:07         ` Wu, Hao A
2020-12-15 16:58         ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-15 17:34           ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-15 17:41             ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-15 17:44               ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-15 18:09                 ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-15 18:55                   ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-15 18:59                     ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-15 19:40                       ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-12-15 19:41                         ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-15 19:46                           ` Vitaly Cheptsov [this message]
2020-12-15 20:01                             ` Michael D Kinney
2020-12-16  9:31                               ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2021-02-02 13:00                                 ` Albecki, Mateusz

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