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From: "Brijesh Singh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	devel@edk2.groups.io, James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Min Xu <min.m.xu@intel.com>, Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com>, Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>,
	Rahul Kumar <rahul1.kumar@intel.com>
Cc: brijesh.singh@amd.com, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 03/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: extend the workarea to include SNP enabled field
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 08:51:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b4c1d22-4971-1b86-8b99-e21067e1f27a@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3aa3454f-9fd8-c04e-618d-fcca8ffe6a3b@redhat.com>


On 6/8/21 3:17 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>
>>> (3) Actually, no.
>>>
>>> This patch should be reduced to the following files only:
>>>
>>> - OvmfPkg/PlatformPei/AmdSev.c
>>> - OvmfPkg/PlatformPei/PlatformPei.inf
>>>
>>> and the following changes should be dropped completely:
>>>
>>> - OvmfPkg/Include/Library/MemEncryptSevLib.h
>>> - OvmfPkg/ResetVector/Ia32/PageTables64.asm
>>> - OvmfPkg/ResetVector/ResetVector.nasmb
>>>
>>> Specifically, the "SEC_SEV_ES_WORK_AREA.SevSnpEnabled" field should
>>> never be introduced.
>>>
>>> The reason is apparent only from patch #10 -- "OvmfPkg/PlatformPei:
>>> register GHCB gpa for the SEV-SNP guest".
>>>
>>> The core idea is that in patch#10, in the SEC module, you can implement
>>> SevSnpIsEnabled() by just reading MSR_SEV_STATUS, and checking the SNP
>>> bit. Namely, while the SevSnpIsEnabled() call is made in
>>> SevEsProtocolCheck(), i.e., before exception handling is set up in the
>>> SEC module -- and so you indeed cannot call CPUID --, you don't *have*
>>> to call CPUID at that call site. Where you call SevSnpIsEnabled() in
>>> SevEsProtocolCheck(), you already know that SEV-ES is enabled, so it's
>>> safe to just read the exact same SEV status MSR that the SEV-ES status
>>> comes from in the first place, without any CPUID safety check.
>> We must check the SNP Enabled inside the assembly code for the page
>> invalidate functions, and I decided to cache the value. A similar
>> SNP-enabled check is required in SEC phase before the
>> ProcessLibraryConstrctorList() is called. There are two options on how
>> we can go about doing the SNP enabled check inside the SEC phase
>> 1. Call the SEV_STATUS MSR after reading the
>> SEC_SEV_ES_WORK_AREA.SevEnabled. As you said, we need to be sure that ES
>> is enabled before calling the SEV_STATUS MSR.
>> 2. SEV_STATUS MSR is read in Reset vector for the SNP enabled check
>> purpose. Extend the SevEsWorkArea to cache the state.
>>
>>  I chose #2 because it avoids checking for ES enabled before checking
>> the SNP enabled. I understand that in the current code path, SNP check
>> is called inside the SevEsProtocolCheck() -- ES is already enabled, and
>> its safe to call SEV_STATUS MSR. What if we need to check for the SNP
>> state outside the ES-specific code block in the future? Then we will
>> need to extend the SevEsWorkArea.
> What would be the reason for this, ever?

One reason I can think of is if we ever decided validate the pages
before the SevEsProtocolCheck(). The version 2 of GHCB spec adds few new
NAE's that are SNP specific such as Page State Change. They are not
applicable to the ES guests. Currently, we do the page validation much
later and by then ProcessorConstructList() is called. Anyway, this is
not an important thing to consider right now. As I said, I will drop the
extending workarea to cache the SNP enable and Hypervisor feature values.


>
> I think this ties in with another point (or question) I raised
> elsewhere: the assembly code in the reset vector suggests *anyway* that
> SNP is only available if ES is available, but I couldn't verify that
> from any specs. If this dependency is an architectural fact (that is, if
> ES is absent, then SNP may never be present), then I wouldn't like to
> introduce a separate field for SNP presence in the SEC_SEV_ES_WORK_AREA
> structure.

The SEV-SNP builds upon existing SEV and SEV-ES support and provides an
additional protection from the hypervisor. The SEV-SNP feature requires
both the SEV and SEV-ES must be enabled. There is some text about it in
APM volume 2 [1] chapter  15.36.


[1] https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/24593.pdf


thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-08 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-26 23:10 [RESEND PATCH RFC v3 00/22] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) support Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:10 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/22] UefiCpuPkg: Define the SEV-SNP specific dynamic PCDs Brijesh Singh
2021-06-03  8:15   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-03 12:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-03 13:07       ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-03 13:38   ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-05-26 23:10 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: add MemEncryptSevSnpEnabled() Brijesh Singh
2021-06-04 13:43   ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-05-26 23:10 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: extend the workarea to include SNP enabled field Brijesh Singh
2021-06-04 14:15   ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 11:20     ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 13:00       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-08  8:17         ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-08 13:51           ` Brijesh Singh [this message]
2021-06-08 16:42             ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: extend Es Workarea to include hv features Brijesh Singh
2021-06-07 11:54   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 13:37     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-08  8:49       ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-08 14:50         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-08 21:36         ` Lendacky, Thomas
2021-06-09 10:50           ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/22] OvmfPkg: reserve Secrets page in MEMFD Brijesh Singh
2021-06-07 12:26   ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 12:48     ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 17:33       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-08  9:22         ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 15:58     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-08  9:20       ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-08 15:43         ` [edk2-devel] " Brijesh Singh
2021-06-08 18:01           ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-08 18:34             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/22] OvmfPkg: reserve CPUID page for the SEV-SNP guest Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/22] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: validate the data pages used in SEC phase Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/22] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: invalidate the GHCB page Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/22] OvmfPkg: add library to support registering GHCB GPA Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/22] OvmfPkg/PlatformPei: register GHCB gpa for the SEV-SNP guest Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/22] UefiCpuPkg/MpLib: add support to register GHCB GPA when SEV-SNP is enabled Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/22] OvmfPkg/AmdSevDxe: do not use extended PCI config space Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: add support to validate system RAM Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 14/22] OvmfPkg/BaseMemEncryptSevLib: skip the pre-validated " Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 15/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: add support to validate > 4GB memory in PEI phase Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 16/22] OvmfPkg/SecMain: pre-validate the memory used for decompressing Fv Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 17/22] OvmfPkg/PlatformPei: validate the system RAM when SNP is active Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 18/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: Change the page state in the RMP table Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 19/22] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: skip page state change for Mmio address Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 20/22] OvmfPkg/AmdSev: expose the SNP reserved pages through configuration table Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 21/22] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Use SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event to launch APs Brijesh Singh
2021-05-26 23:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 22/22] MdePkg/GHCB: increase the GHCB protocol max version Brijesh Singh
2021-06-03 13:08   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-08  1:17     ` 回复: " gaoliming
2021-05-27  9:42 ` [edk2-devel] [RESEND PATCH RFC v3 00/22] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) support Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-02 17:09   ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-04  9:32 ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-04 11:50   ` Brijesh Singh
2021-06-04 13:09     ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-06-07 12:04       ` Laszlo Ersek

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