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From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	devel@edk2.groups.io, jljusten@gmail.com, afish@apple.com,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] LegacyBios: set NumberBbsEntries to the size of BbsTable
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:08:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d61fce0-b8b7-9cad-13ec-31ebd9682d86@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3b1da28426f8e4b6ca847793beca5a52296ae1f.camel@infradead.org>

On 06/21/19 12:59, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 22:35 +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>>> I think your note on patch#2 is valuable too and should be captured in
>>>> the commit message body. Please consider formulating it with a bit more
>>>> neutral tone :)
>>>
>>> I would prefer to express that particular concern in 'diff -up' form
>>> when actually fixing it :)
>>>
>>
>> I'm a big fan of detailed commit messages. It's OK (and welcome) to
>> describe current shortcomings even if you intend to fix them later.
> 
> It isn't strictly a shortcoming of that patch itself, it's more of a
> pre-existing shortcoming which is next on my list.
> 
> But keen-eyed reviewers or testers might potentially have said "It's
> all very well exposing all these new drives but they're all just called
> Harddisk". Mentioning it in the note was partly an attempt to avoid
> that, but mostly an attempt to solicit discussion on how to *fix* it.
> 
> Since it appears to have completely failed to achieve the latter, I'll
> try again :)
> 
> As noted, UefiBootManagerLib already has this BmGetBootDescription()
> function, which is internal. Can I just rename it to
> EfiBootManagerGetBootDescription() and export it without having to
> change any specifications first?

I would say "yes", and we certainly have precedent for that. Please see
commit 4ed2440d4415 ("MdeModulePkg/UefiBootManagerLib: Expose
*GetLoadOptionBuffer() API", 2016-05-04).

> Adding a generic way for block devices to report a human-readable
> description in order to kill off all the device-type-specific functions
> in BmBootDescription.c presumably *would* involve actually coordinating
> with UEFI Specifications first?
> 
> But we could consider that a second step. If I make the LegacyBm code
> just call the existing (but renamed) EfiBootManagerGetBootDescription()
> then all the horrid special cases and the specification work that's
> required to fix them are purely an implementation detail in
> EfiBootManagerLib? 

I think exposing EfiBootManagerGetBootDescription() as a public
function, as-is, is a no-brainer, if platforms need it.

*Changing* EfiBootManagerGetBootDescription() is hairier.
UefiBootManagerLib strives for strict spec compliance (and minimalism),
if I remember correctly. However, I'm not a big fan of that approach
myself, and recently, "extend first, standardize second" has seemed more
accepted/tolerated than before. (I'm an active proponent of this latter
approach.)

A new hook into PlatformBootManagerLib might help, either way. Please
see TianoCore#982, and commit range cef7ecf6cdb4..1010873becc5.

So, please ask Ray (CC'd) :)

Thanks
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-24 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1359122038.24865.19.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>
     [not found] ` <1359147866-15605-3-git-send-email-lersek@redhat.com>
2019-06-18  9:13   ` [PATCH 2/2] LegacyBbs: add boot entries for virtio-blk devices David Woodhouse
2019-06-19 12:44     ` [PATCH 1/2] LegacyBios: set NumberBbsEntries to the size of BbsTable David Woodhouse
2019-06-20 16:12       ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2019-06-20 17:32         ` David Woodhouse
2019-06-20 20:35           ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-06-21 10:59             ` David Woodhouse
2019-06-24 22:08               ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-06-24 22:22                 ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                   ` <F95F0A95-4638-4B08-BDAF-53A797A6B877@infradead.org>
2019-06-25  7:06                     ` Ni, Ray
2019-06-25 10:34                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-06-25  7:29                 ` David Woodhouse
2019-06-24 11:48             ` David Woodhouse
2019-06-24 21:49               ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-06-19 12:44     ` [PATCH 2/2] LegacyBbs: Add boot entries for VirtIO and NVME devices David Woodhouse

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