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From: "Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, Mike Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Cc: "Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"KILIAN_KEGEL@OUTLOOK.COM" <KILIAN_KEGEL@OUTLOOK.COM>,
	"Richardson, Brian" <brian.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [edk2] [EmulatorPkg] using __debugbreak()
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:56:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3275E3A1-246A-4888-A467-19DBC14CEFDB@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E92EE9817A31E24EB0585FDF735412F5B9DF540A@ORSMSX113.amr.corp.intel.com>

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Mike,

On the Unix side the strategy was to launch via the debugger [1], and also pass EFI specific debugger scripts into the debuggers on launch. 

I've played with trick with OS apps by using CpuDeadLoop(). To get unstuck you just need to update Index to be non Zero.  I've also used this technique for JTAG debuggers. For an EFI App I generally use CpuBreakpoint(). The advantage to using getchar() is the "otherwise press enter to continue..." path. So I agree the command line option seems like a reasonable thing to do.

The other trick I played in this area was to have both a `run` and `lldb` option to the script. The `run` option launches the debugger, the 'lldb' (or gdb) option drops you into a debugger prompt so you can set breakpoints early in boot. 

Long term maybe we could have a common Python based build commands for both Windows and Unix and at that point we could move to launching via the debugger for all paths? 

[1] https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/EmulatorPkg/build.sh#L221

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


> On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> Liming,
>
> This may be something that is better with a command line option when WinHost.exe is started instead of a PCD.
>
> I also think there is a way to run VS first and start a process from VS and do an initial BP.  Does that work with latest Windows 10?
>
> Mike
>
> From: Gao, Liming <liming.gao@intel.com <mailto:liming.gao@intel.com>> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:03 AM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>; KILIAN_KEGEL@OUTLOOK.COM <mailto:KILIAN_KEGEL@OUTLOOK.COM>
> Cc: Richardson, Brian <brian.richardson@intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson@intel.com>>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com <mailto:ray.ni@intel.com>>
> Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [edk2] [EmulatorPkg] using __debugbreak()
>
> Kilian:
>  I think this idea is good. It can be enabled when the developer wants to do the source level debug. So, one PCD may be introduced to control the logic. By default, there is no change. When PCD is enabled, WinHost will wait for the developer input. 
>
> Can you submit BZ for this request, and prepare the patch for the change?
>
> Thanks
> Liming
>  <>From: devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io> <devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kilian Kegel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:17 PM
> To: Gao, Liming <liming.gao@intel.com <mailto:liming.gao@intel.com>>; devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>
> Cc: Richardson, Brian <brian.richardson@intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson@intel.com>>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [edk2] [EmulatorPkg] using __debugbreak()
>
> Hi Liming,
>
> CpuBreakPoint() is the same as __debugbreak() on Microsoft Compiler and generates INT 3 DebugTrap.
>
> Yes, that procedure has worked in the past and I have used it in the same way as you do.
>
> But with newer Windows versions, Windows just terminates the “exceptional” process that emits
> INT 3 or any other violation trap and does not offer to debug the process – surly for security reasons…
>
> For debugging purpose on newer Windows 10 versions I always insert the code snippet  below.
>
> It gives the developer the chance to connect VS to the process to be debugged, while waiting on keyboard input.
> (ALT-CTRL-P attach to process)
>
> After that, with the debuggee is connected to VS _before_ the debug trap appears. VS is now
> available for debugging the process with full source code.
>
> The EmulatorPkg (and Nt32Pkg) was the most helpful tool to understand and debug UEFI internals for me.
>
> EmulatorPkg should also usable and helpful for other devolpers.
> Can you please insert the code snippet into main() from WinHost.c?
>
> Thanks,
> Kilian
>
>
> From: Gao, Liming <mailto:liming.gao@intel.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 06:33 AM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>; KILIAN_KEGEL@OUTLOOK.COM <mailto:KILIAN_KEGEL@OUTLOOK.COM>
> Cc: Richardson, Brian <mailto:brian.richardson@intel.com>; Kinney, Michael D <mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [edk2] [EmulatorPkg] using __debugbreak()
>
> Kilian:
>    I normally modify the source code and insert CpuBreakpoint() function. That will trig VS debugger for the source code.
>
> Thanks
> Liming
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io> [mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Kilian Kegel
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:01 PM
> To: Gao, Liming <liming.gao@intel.com <mailto:liming.gao@intel.com>>
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io <mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>; Richardson, Brian <brian.richardson@intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson@intel.com>>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
> Subject: [edk2-devel] [edk2] [EmulatorPkg] using __debugbreak()
>
> Hi Liming,
>
> If have observed in newer Windows 10 versions, when using __debugbreak()in any
> application that Windows just terminates the app, instead offering to debug it.
> So in WinHost.exe too.
>
> That’s why I usually insert the code snippet below to run into getchar()
> when the program was started with the /debug command line switch.
> As long as the App waits for the next keystroke, I can start the debugger (VS2019)
> and connect to WinHost.exe process for debugging.
>
> Do you have a better solution without modifying the source code?
>
> Thanks,
> Kilian
>     if(1){
>         int i;
>
>         SecPrint ("######################################################################################################\n");
>         SecPrint ("add \"/debug\" command line switch, to connect to the debugger at the very beginning of POST emulation\n");
>         SecPrint ("######################################################################################################\n");
>
>         if(Argc > 1){
>             for(i = 1 ; i < Argc ; i++){
>                 if(0 == strcmp("/debug", Argv[i])){
>                         //SecPrint("IF YOU WANT TO DEBUG from the very beginning of the EMULATION:\n\t1. start the TASKMGR\n\t2. connect WinHost.exe to the debugger\n\t3. and press ENTER in this command box\nOR\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t1. start Visual Studio\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t2. DEBUG->ATTACH TO PROCESS (CTRL + ALT + P) --> WinHost.exe\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t3. Break All  (CTRL + ALT + Break) --> WinHost.exe\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t4. SET A SOFTWARE BREAKPOINT (F9) in line 445\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t5. and press ENTER in this command box\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t6. go back to Visual Studio an RUN/SINGLE STEP the application\n");
>                         SecPrint("\t7. otherwise press enter to continue...\n");
>                         getchar();
>                         //
>                         // 1. SET A SOFTWARE BREAKPOINT TO THE NEXT LINE of code below -->> SecPrint("");
>                         // 2. switch to the command box and press ENTER
>                         // 3. start single stepping the entire boot/emulation process, good luck...
>                         //
>                         SecPrint("");//now you can single step the entire boot/emulation process, good luck...
>                    }
>             }
>         }
>     }
>
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-30 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-25  9:24 [edk2-devel] [edk2] If use prebuild tools, not need install python 2.7 anymore? Tiger Liu(BJ-RD)
2019-10-28  5:26 ` Liming Gao
2019-10-28 13:01   ` [edk2-devel] [edk2] [EmulatorPkg] using __debugbreak() Kilian Kegel
2019-10-30  5:33     ` Liming Gao
2019-10-30  9:16       ` Kilian Kegel
2019-10-30 15:03         ` Liming Gao
2019-10-30 15:22           ` Minnow Ware
2019-10-30 15:23             ` Liming Gao
2019-10-30 16:16           ` Michael D Kinney
2019-10-30 16:56             ` Andrew Fish [this message]
2019-11-05 17:36     ` [edk2-devel] [[PATCH 1/1]] EmulatorPkg using CpuBreakPoint Kilian Kegel
2019-11-13  1:06       ` Liming Gao
2019-11-13  2:27         ` Ni, Ray
2019-11-14  5:23           ` Kilian Kegel
2019-11-14  6:57             ` Ni, Ray
2019-11-15  9:56               ` Kilian Kegel

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