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From: "Vitaly Cheptsov" <cheptsov@ispras.ru>
To: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>,
	"Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@outlook.de>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Zhichao" <zhichao.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling safe string constraint assertions
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 20:03:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33B9E11E-5402-4F21-9210-853FC163AD82@ispras.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44ac1ca1-953a-21a2-0c9e-c83aca153b0b@redhat.com>


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Hello everyone,

Let me try in order.

After an internal review I added the following to SafeString commit message:
Note, for packages with constraint assertions disabled this change
turn off the assertions on constraint violations.
This is obvious, and I believe everyone agreed it is not healthy except for some private packages but I guess it is worth mentioning, so that it is cared in these private packages as necessary.

The latest version of the changes  is on GitHub branch (https://github.com/vit9696/edk2/tree/constraint <https://github.com/vit9696/edk2/tree/constraint>). I also resubmitted the V5 of the patchset including all the requested changes.


> You have included the <Library/DebugCommonLib.h> from
> MdePkg/Include/Library/DebugLib.h.  It is very rare for a
> lib class to include another lib class.  This means that a module
> that has a dependency on the DebugLib class inherits a hidden
> dependency on the DebugCommonLib class.  For module INF files,
> we require the INF file to list all the lib classes that the
> module sources directly use.  Since a module that uses the
> DebugLib uses the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros, all the APIs
> that the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros use are also directly
> used by the module.  With this patch series, these macros
> now use the DebugCommonLib class APIs, which means any module
> that uses the DebugLib also directly uses the DebugCommonLib.
> The INF files for all modules that use the DebugLib should
> also be updated to list the DebugCommonLib.  If we go down
> that path, then it would be cleaner for the modules to include
> both DebugLib.h and DebugCommonLib.h so the list of includes
> matches the list of lib classes in the INF file.  This would
> be an even much larger change than the patch series already
> under review.

I do not think it is unusual to include one library header from the other. That’s what we regularly do in our code. I also do not agree that we need to add a dependency on a library consumed by the other library. This is an indirect dependency. Just like Laszlo says.

> In order to address the original problem statement and
> Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2054 <https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2054>
> Perhaps we should go back to the original proposal that
> adds one new PCD so the string APIs in the BaseLib can
> filter out ASSERT() conditions for UEFI Applications that
> want return status behavior without ASSERT() behavior.


If you believe it is not possible to merge the current patch into May release, I am fine to submit a small change that will add a PCD to protect SafeString. However, I am not very happy about it as it may take a considerable amount of time to get rid of this PCD in the future, and we (and likely other people) will have to change the code multiple times. I really want to resolve this sick situation with both BaseLib and DebugLib once and forever, as the need to change the hell of DebugLibs all over the place for a small thing is very very wrong.

> Note: unfortunately, the edk2-platforms tree contains a huge number of
> DebugLib class resolutions (124 resolutions in 48 files, at commit
> bfa32ac70a75), and I think the final patch in the present series will
> break those platforms unless you post patches for them too.
> 
> IMO this is another good example why edk2-platforms should *not* exist
> as a separate repository.

I agree that separating edk2-platforms is very sick as well. I can send the patches on them too, but due to their amount (just like you said it will be almost half a hundred) I would rather make a branch and then just merge it. Same for EDK II (e.g. somewhere in edk2-staging). In addition to that is very hard for me to read the review of the patches by e-mails, and spamming the mailing list feels also not so great.

> (... Please consider adding Cc: tags to the commit messages, so that
> each patch email reaches the subject package owners directly too. Anyway
> that's for the future.)


Fixed.

> I think the very last hunk in this patch belongs in patch#26 ("MdePkg:
> Introduce assertion on constraint debug mask bit"), which is where BIT6
> is actually defined for PcdDebugPropertyMask.

> (2) The "MdePkg/MdePkg.uni" file update from patch#1 belongs here, IMO.


Fixed.

> I think the VALID_ARCHITECTURES comment should be dropped altogether.
> 
> At least the current arch list "IA32 X64 EBC" is incorrect; first
> because ARM and AARCH64 are missing (despite the series -- correctly --
> patching Arm*Pkg and such), and second because -- I *think* -- EBC is no
> longer an arch natively supported by edk2. (Mike and Liming will correct
> me on that, if needed.)

Fixed.

> (1) The other two INF files in the same directory should get the same
> update. (I.e., a dependency on DebugCommonLib.)

Nice catch, fixed.

> (2) I believe it should be possible to remove
> "PcdFixedDebugPrintErrorLevel" from all three INF files in the same
> directory. (The only reference, which is being removed, is in
> DebugPrintLevelEnabled().)


This issue is common across the patches, fixed everywhere.

> (1) Ugh, sorry, my point (1) was going to be about out two instances of
> the same typo:
> 
> s/constrain/constraint/

There also were a couple of cases with constrait. Fixed everything.

Best regards,
Vitaly

> 12 мая 2020 г., в 12:50, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> написал(а):
> 
> On 05/12/20 00:40, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>> Vitaly,
>> 
>> Thank you for the contribution.
>> 
>> There are a couple points about this approach that need to be discussed.
>> 
>> You have included the <Library/DebugCommonLib.h> from
>> MdePkg/Include/Library/DebugLib.h.
> 
> Right, I've noticed it. I agree it's unusual. I didn't think it was wrong.
> 
>> It is very rare for a
>> lib class to include another lib class.  This means that a module
>> that has a dependency on the DebugLib class inherits a hidden
>> dependency on the DebugCommonLib class.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> I think it should be fine. Any header H1 should include such further
> headers H2, H3, ... Hn that are required for making the interfaces
> declared in H1 usable in client modules.
> 
>> For module INF files,
>> we require the INF file to list all the lib classes that the
>> module sources directly use.
> 
> Yes, keyword being "directly".
> 
>> Since a module that uses the
>> DebugLib uses the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros, all the APIs
>> that the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros use are also directly
>> used by the module.
> 
> I believe this is where I disagree. The replacement texts of the
> ASSERT() and DEBUG() function-like macros are internals of the
> DebugLib.h lib class header, in my opinion. Those internals place
> requirements on specific DebugLib instances, not on DebugLib class
> consumers.
> 
> In other words, when writing a new DebugLib instance, the implementor
> has to ensure that the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros, as defined in the
> DebugLib class header, will continue working in DebugLib consumer
> modules. The implementor may then choose to make the new DebugLib
> instance dependent on the (singleton) DebugCommonLib instance, for
> example. (This is being done in patches #3, #4, #16, maybe more.) The
> DebugLib consumer module will inherit that dependency, and everything
> will work.
> 
> Just because ASSERT() and DEBUG() are function-like macros and not
> actual functions, I don't think the INF file requirements in
> DebugLib-consumer modules should change.
> 
>> With this patch series, these macros
>> now use the DebugCommonLib class APIs, which means any module
>> that uses the DebugLib also directly uses the DebugCommonLib.
> 
> In my opinion: indirectly.
> 
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-12 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 15:40 [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling safe string constraint assertions Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 01/27] MdePkg: Introduce DebugCommonLib interface and BaseDebugCommonLib Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:37   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 20:42   ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 02/27] UnitTestFrameworkPkg: Add support for DebugCommonLib Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 03/27] MdePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 04/27] MdeModulePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 05/27] ArmPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 06/27] ArmPlatformPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 07/27] ArmVirtPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:42   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 08/27] CryptoPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 09/27] DynamicTablesPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 10/27] EmbeddedPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 11/27] EmulatorPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 12/27] FatPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 13/27] FmpDevicePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 14/27] IntelFsp2Pkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-12  0:49   ` [edk2-devel] " Chiu, Chasel
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 15/27] IntelFsp2WrapperPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-12  0:47   ` [edk2-devel] " Chiu, Chasel
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 16/27] OvmfPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:49   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 17/27] NetworkPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 18/27] ShellPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 19/27] SecurityPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 20/27] PcAtChipsetPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 21/27] SignedCapsulePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 22/27] SourceLevelDebugPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 23/27] StandaloneMmPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 24/27] UefiCpuPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:52   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 25/27] UefiPayloadPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 26/27] MdePkg: Introduce assertion on constraint debug mask bit Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:58   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 22:12     ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 27/27] MdePkg: Use assertion on constraint violation bit in SafeString Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 21:04   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 22:40 ` [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling safe string constraint assertions Michael D Kinney
2020-05-12  9:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-12 17:03     ` Vitaly Cheptsov [this message]
2020-05-12 18:18     ` [edk2-devel] " Michael D Kinney
2020-05-12 18:57       ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-13 17:59         ` Liming Gao
2020-05-13 18:37           ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-13  9:16       ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-13 14:41         ` [EXTERNAL] " Bret Barkelew
2020-05-13 20:14           ` Brian J. Johnson

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