public inbox for devel@edk2.groups.io
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Oliver Smith-Denny" <osde@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Huang, Yanbo" <yanbo.huang@intel.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"Bi, Dandan" <dandan.bi@intel.com>
Cc: Taylor Beebe <taylor.d.beebe@gmail.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Liming" <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Zhou, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.zhou@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] MdeModulePkg: Fix MAT SplitRecord() Logic introduce one bug and will cause SUT reset when boot to windows
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:33:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34e43fbc-e51a-4f7c-918f-d8daac74af4f@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN6PR11MB82447C1E8ABEB855B96329668C0D2@MN6PR11MB8244.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On 4/18/2024 11:43 PM, Ni, Ray wrote:
> 
> 
> So this is just junk unallocated memory that we are reporting as
> a type it *could* be if an allocation occurs to minimize failures
> of ExitBootServices. Which is questionable. But in terms of
> attributes, I would expect we either have this unallocated
> memory marked the same as the bin type or better, mark it RP
> if we can (Taylor is making a change to set RP on free memory
> by default, so we would have this in the page table, but we
> would need to decide what we tell the OS).
> 
> [Ray] When reviewing today's logic of memory protection through page 
> table, I feel that it was designed improperly in the beginning.
> My rough thought is:
> * All memory is RP initially (as you said Taylor will do that)

Correct, Taylor is working on a change here and actually taking this a
step further, that all free memory will be RP, to catch any use after
free and keep a safer environment.

> * Allocated memory is mapped as either RO or XD, depending on code/data. 
> Or RP if it's a guard page.

This is mostly true, of course it depends on how the memory protections
are configured. I would like to see this go to not being an option but
something that DxeCore enforces by default depending on memory type
allocated.

> 
> Maybe I am not aware of some limitations of the above idea. The 
> limitations prevented the initial design be in this way.
> Or what Taylor will do aligns to the idea?
> 

The issue in this mailing thread is not what DXE's page tables are,
but what get reported in the MAT to the OS. Before Taylor's change
to improve the SplitTable logic the extra RuntimeServicesCode sections
that get reported to the OS (these are the leftover sections in the
memory bins to improve the chance for S4 resume) were getting reported
as XP. Taylor is proposing these get marked RO instead as they are
marked as Code sections (although they really hold junk in them).

Another path would be can we mark them both RO and XP. These are junk
sections, they should not be used and definitely not executed from. We
only report them to the OS so that our memory map changes less between
boots (I also wonder if there are better ways we can do this, but I'll
have to think about this more).

Thanks,
Oliver




-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.
View/Reply Online (#118143): https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/118143
Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105477564/7686176
Group Owner: devel+owner@edk2.groups.io
Unsubscribe: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/unsub [rebecca@openfw.io]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-23 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-27 18:17 [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] Add ImagePropertiesRecordLib and Fix MAT Bugs​ Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:17 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 01/16] MdeModulePkg: Add ImagePropertiesRecordLib Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 02/16] ArmVirtPkg: Add ImagePropertiesRecordLib Instance Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 03/16] EmulatorPkg: " Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 04/16] OvmfPkg: " Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 05/16] UefiPayloadPkg: " Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 06/16] MdeModulePkg: Update MemoryAttributesTable.c to Reduce Global Variable Use Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 07/16] MdeModulePkg: Move Some DXE MAT Logic to ImagePropertiesRecordLib Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 08/16] MdeModulePkg: Add ImagePropertiesRecordLib Host-Based Unit Test Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 09/16] MdeModulePkg: Fix MAT Descriptor Count Calculation Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 10/16] MdeModulePkg: Fix MAT SplitRecord() Logic Taylor Beebe
2024-04-12  5:14   ` [edk2-devel] MdeModulePkg: Fix MAT SplitRecord() Logic introduce one bug and will cause SUT reset when boot to windows Huang, Yanbo
2024-04-12 15:09     ` Taylor Beebe
2024-04-14 14:35       ` Huang, Yanbo
2024-04-15 10:57         ` Dandan Bi
2024-04-16  1:17           ` Taylor Beebe
2024-04-17  2:32             ` Taylor Beebe
2024-04-17 14:04               ` Huang, Yanbo
2024-04-17 23:53                 ` Taylor Beebe
2024-04-18 13:02                   ` Dandan Bi
2024-04-18 13:17                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-04-18 13:56                       ` Huang, Yanbo
2024-04-18 14:21                         ` Oliver Smith-Denny
2024-04-19  6:43                           ` Ni, Ray
2024-04-23 14:33                             ` Oliver Smith-Denny [this message]
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 11/16] MdeModulePkg: Fix MAT SplitTable() Logic Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 12/16] MdeModulePkg: Add NULL checks and Return Status to ImagePropertiesRecordLib Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 13/16] UefiCpuPkg: Use Attribute From SMM MemoryAttributesTable if Nonzero Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 14/16] MdeModulePkg: Transition SMM MAT Logic to Use ImagePropertiesRecordLib Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 15/16] MdeModulePkg: Add Logic to Create/Delete Image Properties Records Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 16/16] MdeModulePkg: Update DumpImageRecord() in ImagePropertiesRecordLib Taylor Beebe
2023-11-27 18:40 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v5 00/16] Add ImagePropertiesRecordLib and Fix MAT Bugs​ Ard Biesheuvel
2023-11-28 10:22   ` Ni, Ray

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-list from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=34e43fbc-e51a-4f7c-918f-d8daac74af4f@linux.microsoft.com \
    --to=devel@edk2.groups.io \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox