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From: "Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	Pawel Polawski <ppolawsk@redhat.com>,
	Dongyan Qian <qiandongyan@loongson.cn>,
	Sunil V L <sunilvl@ventanamicro.com>,
	Baoqi Zhang <zhangbaoqi@loongson.cn>,
	Chao Li <lichao@loongson.cn>, Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	Zhiguang Liu <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	Yuwei Chen <yuwei.chen@intel.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
	Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Daniel Schaefer <git@danielschaefer.me>,
	Bob Feng <bob.c.feng@intel.com>,
	Oliver Steffen <osteffen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v4 01/10] BaseTools: add BASETOOLS define
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 13:41:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42EE2D39-46C4-47AD-A7B6-E7EC44669057@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <o5z7soay4nwhxr2bv5vnxdop6nxrokwqz5rdaxnaea7blrvsx7@ktnke754syfl>


> On 18. Apr 2023, at 15:20, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 01:59:43PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 13:52, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seems to work fine on fedora 37, even without adding --relax, maybe this
>>> is enabled by default (there is a --no-relax switch after all).  I'll go
>>> try older distros / compilers / binutils too.
>>> 
>>> What would be the failure mode?  Errors on ELF -> PE conversion because
>>> a GOT is present?  Or will things break at runtime?
>>> 
>> 
>> The problem here is that we rely on --emit-relocs to get at the
>> relocations in the binary, in order to convert the absolute ones into
>> PE/COFF relocations.
>> 
>> However, --emit-relocs did not use to cover the GOT, as those are
>> added at the end by the linker and not by the compiler. So if the GOT
>> is non-empty, the resulting PE executable will be corrupt.
> 
> So no build error.  And at runtime probably random effects, depending on
> whenever the execution path happens to hit a bad relocation or not.  So
> compile + boot testing doesn't cut it.  Lovely.
> 
> So, what can I do instead?  Check **/DEBUG/*.debug and see whenever a
> .got section is present?
> 
>> Of course, the answer here is to dump GenFw altogether for ELF to PE
>> conversion, and implement something that consumes the dynamic
>> relocations generated when linking in PIE mode.
> 
> Marvin's ImageTool is exactly that I think ...

Not quite, we actually didn't change anything about PIE vs non-PIE yet (X64 is PIE, rest is non-PIE). Though that was on the "long-term TODO" for sure. There are many other advantages though and if you're looking for an alternative to GenFw, I'm still happy to discuss things right now. As I develop this as part of a thesis and its deadline is in July, any efforts past that heavily depend on the workload at whatever job I will end up in. :)

Best regards,
Marvin

> 
> take care,
>  Gerd
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-18 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-14  8:02 [PATCH v4 00/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] BaseTools: add BASETOOLS define Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 12:29   ` Marvin Häuser
2023-04-14 14:37     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 14:51       ` Marvin Häuser
2023-04-14 14:57       ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-14 15:10         ` Marvin Häuser
2023-04-18 11:52         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-18 11:59           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-18 13:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-18 13:41               ` Marvin Häuser [this message]
2023-04-18 15:50               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-21  3:26                 ` 回复: " gaoliming
2023-05-22 12:27         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-22 12:55           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-22 13:38             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-22 14:31               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-23  7:07                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-23  8:49                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-23  8:54                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] MdePkg: don't set visibility to hidden for BaseTools Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] BaseTools: remove WinNtInclude.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: <arch>/ProcessorBind.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: IndustryStandard/Acpi*.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] MdePkg/PeImage.h: add bits from BaseTools version Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] BaseTools: drop IMAGE_FILE_MACHINE_ARM hacks Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] BaseTools: switch from EFI_IMAGE_MACHINE_* to IMAGE_FILE_MACHINE_* Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 12:16   ` [edk2-devel] " Rebecca Cran
2023-04-14 14:39     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: IndustryStandard/PeImage.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: IndustryStandard/*.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 12:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes Rebecca Cran

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