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From: "Oliver Smith-Denny" <osde@linux.microsoft.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, ardb@kernel.org
Cc: "Michael Kinney" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"Liming Gao" <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Jiewen Yao" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"Michael Kubacki" <michael.kubacki@microsoft.com>,
	"Sean Brogan" <sean.brogan@microsoft.com>,
	"Rebecca Cran" <quic_rcran@quicinc.com>,
	"Leif Lindholm" <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
	"Sami Mujawar" <sami.mujawar@arm.com>,
	"Taylor Beebe" <t@taylorbeebe.com>,
	"Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>,
	"Bob Feng" <bob.c.feng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 17/17] MdeModulePkg: Enable forward edge CFI in mem attributes table
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 08:00:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <496938cd-0e7d-d719-a097-d17f113f6adf@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXEK6q4-v84kh=QSaUmG1miGi3vFbQPiF=tkSwRd55iBEw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/4/2023 3:41 AM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 at 17:48, Oliver Smith-Denny
> <osde@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> Turns out my old email was getting sent to a lot of folks spam, so
>> resending with hopefully a better email...
>>
>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 AM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>> The memory attributes table has been extended with a flag that indicates
>>> whether or not the OS is permitted to map the EFI runtime code regions
>>> with strict enforcement for IBT/BTI landing pad instructions.
>>>
>>> Given that the PE/COFF spec now defines a DllCharacteristicsEx flag that
>>> indicates whether or not a loaded image is compatible with this, we can
>>> wire this up to the flag in the memory attributes table, and set it if
>>> all loaded runtime image are compatible with it.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>>    MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/DxeMain.h                    |  2 ++
>>>    MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/Image/Image.c                | 10 ++++++++++
>>>    MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/Misc/MemoryAttributesTable.c |  8 +++++++-
>>>    3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/DxeMain.h b/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/DxeMain.h
>>> index 815a6b4bd844a452..43daa037be441150 100644
>>> --- a/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/DxeMain.h
>>> +++ b/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/DxeMain.h
>>> @@ -280,6 +280,8 @@ extern EFI_MEMORY_TYPE_INFORMATION  gMemoryTypeInformation[EfiMaxMemoryType + 1]
>>>    extern BOOLEAN                    gDispatcherRunning;
>>>
>>>    extern EFI_RUNTIME_ARCH_PROTOCOL  gRuntimeTemplate;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +extern BOOLEAN  gMemoryAttributesTableForwardCfi;
>>>
>>> +
>>>
>>>    extern EFI_LOAD_FIXED_ADDRESS_CONFIGURATION_TABLE  gLoadModuleAtFixAddressConfigurationTable;
>>>
>>>    extern BOOLEAN                                     gLoadFixedAddressCodeMemoryReady;
>>>
>>>    //
>>>
>>> diff --git a/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/Image/Image.c b/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/Image/Image.c
>>> index 8704ebea9a7c88c0..9dbfb2a1fad22ced 100644
>>> --- a/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/Image/Image.c
>>> +++ b/MdeModulePkg/Core/Dxe/Image/Image.c
>>> @@ -1399,6 +1399,16 @@ CoreLoadImageCommon (
>>>        CoreNewDebugImageInfoEntry (EFI_DEBUG_IMAGE_INFO_TYPE_NORMAL, &Image->Info, Image->Handle);
>>>
>>>      }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +  //
>>>
>>> +  // Check whether we are loading a runtime image that lacks support for
>>>
>>> +  // IBT/BTI landing pads.
>>>
>>> +  //
>>>
>>> +  if ((Image->ImageContext.ImageCodeMemoryType == EfiRuntimeServicesCode) &&
>>>
>>> +      ((Image->ImageContext.DllCharacteristicsEx & EFI_IMAGE_DLLCHARACTERISTICS_EX_FORWARD_CFI_COMPAT) == 0))
>>>
>>> +  {
>>>
>>> +    gMemoryAttributesTableForwardCfi = FALSE;
>>>
>>> +  }
>>
>> If I understand this correctly, we are disabling Forward CFI if we
>> attempt to load any runtime images that don't support it. Would it make
>> sense to have a PCD to determine whether we strictly enforce
>> Forward CFI (i.e. don't load this incompatible image) in such a case? We
>> have a similar option for non-NX_COMPAT images.
>>
> 
> These changes only affect what the OS sees, and if the OS wants to
> implement a certain policy around this, it is free to do so. I don't
> think this belongs in the firmware though,
> 
> *However*, if/when we wire up forward CFI enforcement at boot time, it
> would be appropriate to have a configurable policy around this, and
> reject 3rd party images that do not implement forward CFI if the
> firmware is configured for strict enforcement.
> 
> I intend to look into that next, but given how tedious and painful it
> is to get changes reviewed, I'm not sure this will be anytime soon.

I see, thanks for the explanation, makes sense to me.

For the patchset (sorry, with the email change I don't have the top 
level entry): Reviewed-by: Oliver Smith-Denny <osde@linux.microsoft.com>

> 
> 
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-04 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-27 11:00 [PATCH v2 00/17] Enable BTI support in memory attributes table Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] MdePkg/ProcessorBind AARCH64: Add asm macro to emit GNU BTI note Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:52   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:15     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 12:56       ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:45   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:46     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 12:49       ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 14:12   ` Pedro Falcato
2023-03-27 14:24     ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-30  7:28       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-30 10:47         ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] MdePkg/BaseCpuLib AARCH64: Make asm files BTI compatible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] MdePkg/BaseIoLibIntrinsic " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] MdePkg/BaseLib AARCH64: Make LongJump() " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] MdePkg/BaseLib AARCH64: Make asm files " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLibOptDxe " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] MdePkg/BaseSynchronizationLib " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] MdePkg/BaseRngLib " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] ArmPkg: Emit BTI opcodes when BTI codegen is enabled Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] ArmPkg/GccLto AARCH64: Add BTI note to LTO helper library Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] ArmPkg, BaseTools AARCH64: Add BTI ELF note to .hii objects Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 13:09   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 13:16     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] ArmPlatformPkg/PrePeiCore: Make vector table object BTI compatible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] BaseTools/GenFw: Parse IBT/BTI support status from ELF note Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] BaseTools/GenFw: Add DllCharacteristicsEx field to debug data Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 15:46   ` Marvin Häuser
2023-03-27 16:41     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] MdePkg: Update MemoryAttributesTable to v2.10 Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 13:29   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-29 16:47     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-29 18:07       ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] MdePkg/PeCoffLib: Capture DLL characteristics fieldis in image context Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-30 14:44   ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Kubacki
2023-03-30 14:53     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] MdeModulePkg: Enable forward edge CFI in mem attributes table Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-28 22:59   ` [edk2-devel] " Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-04-03 15:48   ` osde
2023-04-04 10:41     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-04 15:00       ` Oliver Smith-Denny [this message]
2023-04-04 15:30         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:43 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Enable BTI support in memory " Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:54   ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 13:37     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-03-28 23:00 ` Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-03-29 16:31 ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-30  7:41   ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel

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