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From: "Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	Baptiste Gerondeau <baptiste.gerondeau@linaro.org>,
	"ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Mike Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Shenglei" <shenglei.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Arm builds on Visual Studio
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 12:57:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C16B5F2-BE65-406C-BF39-114DC3495B52@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee6c3912-e8d9-8ab6-018b-7720becd9122@redhat.com>

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> On Sep 19, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 09/19/19 11:44, Leif Lindholm wrote:
>> Hi Liming,
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 06:19:42AM +0000, Gao, Liming wrote:
>>> I add my comments. 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Baptiste Gerondeau [mailto:baptiste.gerondeau@linaro.org]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 12:05 AM
>>>> To: devel@edk2.groups.io
>>>> Cc: ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org; leif.lindholm@linaro.org; Kinney, Michael D
>>>> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Gao, Liming <liming.gao@intel.com>; Zhang,
>>>> Shenglei <shenglei.zhang@intel.com>; Baptiste Gerondeau
>>>> <baptiste.gerondeau@linaro.org>
>>>> Subject: [PATCH 0/3] Arm builds on Visual Studio
>>>> 
>>>> EDIT: Resending the series since I mistakenly used the wrong email,
>>>> sorry !
>>>> 
>>>> We are currently making an effort to make ARM (and AARCH64 eventually)
>>>> builds using Microsoft's Visual Studio Compiler (aka MSVC/MSFT).
>>>> 
>>>> These 3 patches correspond to an effort to make the assembler work with
>>>> MSFT, which entails :
>>>> - Feeding MSFT the RVCT .asm files, since they share syntax
>>>> requirements.
>>> 
>>> Please separate the patch. Each patch is for each package, can't cross packages. 
>>> If so, the package maintainer can easy review the change. 
>> 
>> I agree with this as a general rule, but for this (hopefully never to
>> be repeated) operation, it makes sense to me to keep each change in
>> this set as one patch.
>> 
>> For the simple reason that the alternative leaves several unusable
>> commits in sequence in the repository. There is simply no way to
>> bisect through this change on a per-package basis.
>> 
>> This is after all a horrible horrible hack that lets us keep using the
>> .asm files provided for one toolchain family (RVCT) in a different
>> toolchain family (MSFT), without having to delete and re-add, losing
>> history in the process.
>> 
>> Would you be OK with an exception for this extremely unusual
>> situation?
> 
> (The question was posed to Liming, but I'm going to follow up here with
> my own thoughts, after getting CC'd by Liming. Thanks for that BTW.)
> 
> Let's assume the changes are split up with a fine granularity. Under
> that assumption, consider two cases:
> 
> (1) ARM builds on Visual Studio are broken until the last patch is
> applied, but all other toolchains continue working fine throughout the
> series.
> 
> versus
> 
> (2) ARM builds are broken on Visual Studio *and* on at least one other
> -- preexistent -- toolchain, until the last patch in the series is applied.
> 
> 
> Which case reflects reality?
> 
> If it's case (1), then I prefer the fine-grained patch series structure.
> Nothing regresses with existent toolchains (so bisection works with
> them), we just have to advertise the last patch in the series as the one
> that enables Visual Studio.
> 
> If it's case (2), then I agree with the larger (multi-package) patch, as
> a rare exception.
> 
> (We can also put it like this: if it's *possible* to write this series
> such that it enables (1), then we should strive for that.)
> 

Laszlo,

I agree with your logic around (1) and (2). I'd also point out we can do the review using (1) and squash into a single commit if we need to take path (2).

Thanks,

Andrew Fish

> Thanks,
> Laszlo
> 
> 


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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-18 12:25 [PATCH 0/3] Arm builds on Visual Studio Baptiste Gerondeau
2019-09-18 12:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] ArmPkg/MdePkg : Unify INF files format Baptiste Gerondeau
2019-09-19  9:29   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-18 12:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM/Assembler: Correct syntax from RVCT for MSFT Baptiste Gerondeau
2019-09-19  9:32   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19  9:48     ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19 10:01       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19 10:09         ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19 10:25           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19 10:34             ` Baptiste Gerondeau
2019-09-19 10:37               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19 10:47                 ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19 10:53                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19 11:25                     ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19 12:36                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19 14:31                         ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19 14:44                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19 11:07                 ` Baptiste Gerondeau
2019-09-19 10:37             ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-18 12:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM/Assembler: Reuse RVCT assembler for MSFT build Baptiste Gerondeau
2019-09-19  9:38   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-19  9:52     ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19  9:59       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-09-18 16:43 ` [PATCH 0/3] Arm builds on Visual Studio Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19  6:19 ` Liming Gao
2019-09-19  9:44   ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-19 14:53     ` Liming Gao
2019-09-19 19:24     ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2019-09-19 19:57       ` Andrew Fish [this message]
2019-09-19 20:27       ` Leif Lindholm
2019-09-24  1:28         ` Liming Gao

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