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From: Paulo Alcantara <pcacjr@zytor.com>
To: "Brian J. Johnson" <brian.johnson@hpe.com>,
	Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Cc: Fan Jeff <vanjeff_919@hotmail.com>,
	"edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Rick Bramley <richard.bramley@hp.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>, Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/1] Stack trace support in X64 exception handling
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:56:23 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f5f3bbb-fba1-7cfc-5a5d-d0625ee76533@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abf8a2f7-665f-4787-1b13-8873d087967d@hpe.com>

Hi,

On 14/11/2017 15:41, Brian J. Johnson wrote:
> On 11/14/2017 11:23 AM, Andrew Fish wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Brian J. Johnson <brian.johnson@hpe.com 
>>> <mailto:brian.johnson@hpe.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2017 09:37 AM, Paulo Alcantara wrote:
>>>> Hi Fan,
>>>> On 14/11/2017 12:03, Fan Jeff wrote:
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> I like this feature very much. Actually, I did some POC one year 
>>>>> ago but I did finalize it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my POC, I could use EBP to tack the stack frame on IAS32 arch.
>>>>>
>>>>> But for x64, I tried to use –keepexceptiontable flag to explain 
>>>>> stack frame from the debug section of image.
>>>>>
>>>>> I may workson MSFT toolchain, but it did now work well for GCC 
>>>>> toolchain.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Eric could help to verify MSFT for your patch. If it works 
>>>>> well, that’s will be great!
>>>>>
>>>>> Say again, I like this feature!!!:-)
>>>> Cool! Your help would be really appreciable! If we get this working 
>>>> for X64 in both toolchains, that should be easy to port it to IA-3 2 
>>>> as well.
>>>> Thank you very much for willing to help on that.
>>>> Paulo
>>>
>>> Great feature!  You do need some sort of sanity check on the RIP and 
>>> RBP values, though, so if the stack gets corrupted or the RIP is 
>>> nonsense from following a bad pointer, you don't start dereferencing 
>>> garbage addresses and trigger an exception loop.
>>>
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> This was a long time ago and my memory might be fuzzy.... I think we 
>> talked to some debugger folks about unwinding the stack and they 
>> mentioned it was common for the C runtime to have a return address or 
>> frame pointer have a zero value so the unwind logic knows when to 
>> stop. This is in addition to generic sanity checking.
>>
>> We got an extra push $0 added to the stack switch to help with stack 
>> unwind.
>> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdePkg/Library/BaseLib/X64/SwitchStack.S 
>>
>>
>> If might be a good idea to have a PCD for the max number of stack 
>> frames to display as a fallback for the error check. For X64 you may 
>> also have to add a check for a non-cononical address as that will GP 
>> fault.
>>
> 
> Good idea.
> 
> Regarding sanity checks:  I've had good luck validating code locations 
> (EIP values) by using a modified PeCoffExtraActionLib to track the top 
> and bottom of the range where images have been loaded.  (I've actually 
> used two ranges:  one for code executed from firmware space, and one for 
> code executed from RAM.)
> 
> I'm not sure offhand if there's a platform-independent way to validate 
> stack pointer values.  For most PC-like systems, just ensuring that it's 
> larger than 1 or 2M (to avoid NULL pointers and the legacy spaces) and 
> less than about 3G (or the low memory size, if that's known) may be 
> enough to avoid an exception loop.

Yeah, I agree with you guys. We certainly should be validating the RIP 
and RSP values and then avoiding the exception loop.

For the RIP value, I think we should validate it in 
PeCoffSearchImageBase(), so if it's outside PE/COFF image's address 
space, then we should return an address of zero and no trace would be 
printed out.

Since we already have a "SizeOfImage" field in PE/COFF Optional Header 
and it's available in the process' image, we might end up with checking 
whether RIP is between ImageBase through ImageBase + SizeOfImage - 1.

For the RSP value, I have no idea :-)

Thanks!
Paulo

> 
> Brian
> 
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrew Fish
>>
>>
>>> For at least some versions of Microsoft's IA32 compiler, it's 
>>> possible to compile using EBP as a stack frame base pointer (like 
>>> gcc) by using the "/Oy-" switch.  The proposed unwind code should 
>>> work in that case. The X64 compiler doesn't support this switch, though.
>>>
>>> AFAIK the only way to unwind the stack with Microsoft's X64 compilers 
>>> is to parse the unwind info in the .pdata and .xdata sections. 
>>>  Genfw.exe usually strips those sections, but the 
>>> "--keepexceptiontable" flag will preserve them, as Jeff pointed out. 
>>>  I've looked hard for open source code to decode them, but haven't 
>>> found any, even though the format is well documented.  And I haven't 
>>> gotten around to writing it myself.  I'd love it if someone could 
>>> contribute the code!
>>>
>>> Another possibility is to use the branch history MSRs available on 
>>> some x86-family processors.  Recent Intel processors can use them as 
>>> a stack, as opposed to a circular list, so they can record a 
>>> backtrace directly. (I'm not familiar with AMD processors' 
>>> capabilities.)  You can enable call stack recording like this:
>>>
>>>  #define LBR_ON_FLAG   0x0000000000000001
>>>  #define IA32_DEBUGCTL 0x1D9
>>>  #define CALL_STACK_SET_FLAG 0x3C4
>>>  #define CALL_STACK_CLR_FLAG 0xFC7
>>>  #define MSR_LBR_SELECT 0x1C8
>>>
>>>  //
>>>  // Enable branch recording
>>>  //
>>>  LbControl = AsmReadMsr64 ((UINT32)IA32_DEBUGCTL);
>>>  LbControl |= LBR_ON_FLAG;
>>>  AsmWriteMsr64 ((UINT32)IA32_DEBUGCTL, LbControl);
>>>
>>>  //
>>>  // Configure for call stack
>>>  //
>>>  LbSelect = AsmReadMsr64 ((UINT32)MSR_LBR_SELECT);
>>>  LbSelect &= CALL_STACK_CLR_FLAG;
>>>  LbSelect |= CALL_STACK_SET_FLAG;
>>>  AsmWriteMsr64((UINT32)MSR_LBR_SELECT, LbSelect);
>>>
>>> The EIP/RIP values are logged in 
>>> MSR_SANDY_BRIDGE_LASTBRANCH_n_FROM_IP and 
>>> MSR_SANDY_BRIDGE_LASTBRANCH_n_TO_IP, and the current depth is tracked 
>>> in MSR_LASTBRANCH_TOS.  This works quite well.  Gen10 (Sky Lake) 
>>> processors support 32 LASTBRANCH_n MSR pairs, which is sufficient in 
>>> almost all cases.
>>>
>>> Different processor generations have different branch recording 
>>> capabilities, and different numbers of LASTBRANCH_n MSRs; see Intel's 
>>> manuals for details.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> *发件人: *Paulo Alcantara <mailto:pcacjr@zytor.com>
>>>>> *发送时间: *2017年11月14日21:23
>>>>> *收件人: *edk2-devel@lists.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org> 
>>>>> <mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
>>>>> *抄送: *Rick Bramley <mailto:richard.bramley@hp.com>; Laszlo Ersek 
>>>>> <mailto:lersek@redhat.com>; Andrew Fish <mailto:afish@apple.com>; 
>>>>> Eric Dong <mailto:eric.dong@intel.com>
>>>>> *主题: *Re: [edk2] [RFC 0/1] Stack trace support in X64 exception 
>>>>> handling
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/11/2017 10:47, Paulo Alcantara wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This series adds stack trace support during a X64 CPU exception.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Informations like back trace, stack contents and image module names
>>>>>> (that were part of the call stack) will be dumped out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already have such support in ARM/AArch64 (IIRC) exception handling
>>>>>> (thanks to Ard), and then I thought we'd also deserve it in X64 and
>>>>>> IA-32 platforms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think guys?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, I've tested this only with OVMF (X64 only), using:
>>>>>> - gcc-6.3.0, GCC5, NOOPT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other tests  would be really appreciable.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've attached a file to show you how the trace would look like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Paulo
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Paulo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Repo: https://github.com/pcacjr/edk2.git
>>>>>> Branch: stacktrace_x64
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Rick Bramley <richard.bramley@hp.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:richard.bramley@hp.com>>
>>>>>> Cc: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com <mailto:afish@apple.com>>
>>>>>> Cc: Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com <mailto:eric.dong@intel.com>>
>>>>>> Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com <mailto:lersek@redhat.com>>
>>>>>> Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.1
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Paulo Alcantara <pcacjr@zytor.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:pcacjr@zytor.com>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paulo Alcantara (1):
>>>>>> UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64: Add stack trace support
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   UefiCpuPkg/Library/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64/ArchExceptionHandler.c 
>>>>>> | 344 +++++++++++++++++++-
>>>>>> 1 file changed, 342 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>                                                Brian
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
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>>>    like it to keep in touch."
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>>
> 
> 


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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-14 12:47 [RFC 0/1] Stack trace support in X64 exception handling Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-14 12:47 ` [RFC 1/1] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-14 14:01   ` Andrew Fish
2017-11-14 14:26     ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-14 14:38       ` Andrew Fish
2017-11-14 15:30     ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-14 16:51       ` Brian J. Johnson
2017-12-29  3:48   ` [RFC v4 0/6] Stack trace support in X64 exception handling Paulo Alcantara
2017-12-29  4:39     ` [RFC v4 1/6] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-03  8:53       ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2018-01-03 14:51         ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-12-29  4:39     ` [RFC v4 2/6] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Export GetPdbFileName() Paulo Alcantara
2017-12-29  4:39     ` [RFC v4 3/6] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/Ia32: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2017-12-29  4:39     ` [RFC v4 4/6] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Add helper to valid memory addresses Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-03  8:42       ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2018-01-03 14:45         ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-03 16:59       ` Brian J. Johnson
2018-01-04 13:03         ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-04  1:36       ` Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-04  1:58         ` Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-04 13:29           ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-04 14:35             ` Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-04 15:15               ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-04 13:18         ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-12-29  4:39     ` [RFC v4 5/6] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Ensure valid frame/stack pointers Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-03  8:45       ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2018-01-03 14:48         ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-04  1:07       ` Yao, Jiewen
2017-12-29  4:39     ` [RFC v4 6/6] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Correctly print IP addresses Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-03  8:46       ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2018-01-04  0:59     ` [RFC v4 0/6] Stack trace support in X64 exception handling Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-04 13:36       ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23     ` [RFC v5 0/8] " Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 1/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 2/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Export GetPdbFileName() Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 3/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/Ia32: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 4/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Add helper to validate memory addresses Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 5/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Ensure valid frame/stack pointers Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 6/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Correctly print IP addresses Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 7/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Validate memory address ranges Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-15  0:23       ` [RFC v5 8/8] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Add early check in DumpStackContents Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-17 12:57       ` [RFC v5 0/8] Stack trace support in X64 exception handling Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-17 22:48         ` Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-19  0:09           ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-19  0:02         ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-19  0:15           ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-29 13:38         ` Paulo Alcantara
2018-01-31  5:56           ` Yao, Jiewen
2018-01-31 19:05             ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-14 13:21 ` [RFC 0/1] " Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-14 14:03   ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-14 14:12     ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-14 15:37     ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-14 16:33       ` Brian J. Johnson
2017-11-14 17:23         ` Andrew Fish
2017-11-14 17:41           ` Brian J. Johnson
2017-11-14 17:56             ` Paulo Alcantara [this message]
2017-11-15 13:21       ` 答复: 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-15 14:41         ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-15 14:52           ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-16  1:18 ` [RFC v2 0/3] " Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16  1:18   ` [RFC v2 1/3] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16  1:57     ` Yao, Jiewen
2017-11-16 22:13       ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-17  3:43         ` Yao, Jiewen
2017-11-20 14:51           ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16 15:43     ` Brian J. Johnson
2017-11-16 22:19       ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16  1:18   ` [RFC v2 2/3] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Export GetPdbFileName() Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16  1:18   ` [RFC v2 3/3] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/Ia32: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16  1:46   ` [RFC v2 0/3] Stack trace support in X64 exception handling Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16  5:01     ` Andrew Fish
2017-11-16 22:02       ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16 21:56   ` [RFC v3 " Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16 21:56     ` [RFC v3 1/3] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/X64: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-17  7:24       ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-20 14:59         ` Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-23 14:27           ` 答复: " Fan Jeff
2017-11-23 18:34             ` Andrew Fish
2017-11-23 19:49               ` Fan Jeff
2017-11-16 21:56     ` [RFC v3 2/3] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib: Export GetPdbFileName() Paulo Alcantara
2017-11-16 21:56     ` [RFC v3 3/3] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandlerLib/Ia32: Add stack trace support Paulo Alcantara

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