From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=96.73.9.1; helo=muon.bluestop.org; envelope-from=rebecca@bluestop.org; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [96.73.9.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9689921B02822 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 12:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054E033F01; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 13:15:05 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bluestop.org; s=mail; t=1547064905; bh=nSuMXq5bJyMaqMkgOyFiGQZYy6eb115uGSQZc1pS1yw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=CiexjvRRxrWn3PgGH/6zchC/RB8hY8+irzCy79YmML9G/Ad+OzNXT5ZEIoM5U/UjL MSpWs9YGCGxrWf0Ldy1C1FzbtFMD29WeoyB25hhAgiOSSg5Uyi/9/WPoBSctv8fs41 XBVGheoHulNi5Je7poCrGcCXkJkSsUrdx095mdgo= Received: from muon.bluestop.org ([127.0.0.1]) by muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aqEolK2XNqWC; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 13:15:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from photon.int.bluestop.org (gw.bluestop.org [96.73.9.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 13:15:04 -0700 (MST) From: Rebecca Cran To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org, "Knop, Ryszard" Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2019 13:14:07 -0700 Message-ID: <5096239.8gLySxXtyI@photon.int.bluestop.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software: Microsoft Teams X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2019 20:14:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Friday, 4 January 2019 03:09:02 MST Knop, Ryszard wrote: > I think any solution like that should be publicly available for an > unlimited number of users. As it stands now, mailing lists and IRC are > open to all - if software like Microsoft Teams is to be used, it's > pretty likely most communication would quickly become invitation-only > to avoid paying $8 per user. This often happens with many projects > moving from mailing lists/IRC to something like Slack and having > essentially zero public or searchable communications. Perhaps someone > admining the edk2-devel list could look up the amount of subscribers > and chime in? There _are_ open source alternatives to Slack and Microsoft Teams - for example Mattermost (https://mattermost.com/), and Discord might also be an option (despite it being aimed pretty strongly at gamers). There's also the option of using IRC but having a Slack instance which uses the IRC bridge to allow bidirectional communication (albeit a bit clumsily). Personally, I'd recommend against using Microsoft Teams. I've talked to people who've used it and it pales in comparison to Slack. I know teams who have 'gone rogue' and set up their own Slack to avoid using the official Microsoft Teams instance. -- Rebecca