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From: "Zeng, Star" <star.zeng@intel.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>, star.zeng@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: Use common buffer for AsyncInterruptTransfer
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 23:00:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57b70aa4-f2c7-02e4-4eb5-43b0a65ba24c@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42216d80-d5c0-d071-aa54-932138a05078@intel.com>

On 2018/11/6 22:37, Zeng, Star wrote:
> On 2018/11/6 17:49, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 31 October 2018 at 05:38, Zeng, Star <star.zeng@intel.com> wrote:
>>> Good feedback.
>>>
>>> On 2018/10/30 20:50, Leif Lindholm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:39:24AM -0300, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (add back the list)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oi! Go back on holiday!
>>>>
>>>>> On 30 October 2018 at 09:07, Cohen, Eugene <eugene@hp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has this patch been tested on a system that does not have coherent 
>>>>>> DMA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not clear that this change would actually be faster on a 
>>>>>> system of
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> type since using common buffers imply access to uncached memory.
>>>>>> Depending
>>>>>> on the access patterns the uncached memory access could be more time
>>>>>> consuming than cache maintenance operations.
>>>
>>>
>>> The change/idea was based on the statement below.
>>>    ///
>>>    /// Provides both read and write access to system memory by both the
>>> processor and a
>>>    /// bus master. The buffer is coherent from both the processor's 
>>> and the
>>> bus master's point of view.
>>>    ///
>>>    EfiPciIoOperationBusMasterCommonBuffer,
>>>
>>> Thanks for raising case about uncached memory access. But after 
>>> checking the
>>> code, for Intel VTd case
>>> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/IntelSiliconPkg/Feature/VTd/IntelVTdDxe/BmDma.c#L460 
>>>
>>> (or no IOMMU case
>>> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/PciHostBridgeDxe/PciRootBridgeIo.c#L1567), 
>>>
>>> the common buffer is just normal memory buffer.
>>> If someone can help do some test/collect some data on a system using 
>>> common
>>> buffers imply access to uncached memory, that will be great.
>>>
>>
>> OK, so first of all, can anyone explain to me under which
>> circumstances interrupt transfers are a bottleneck? I'd assume that
>> anything throughput bound would use bulk endpoints.
>>
>> Also, since the Map/Unmap calls are only costly when using an IOMMU,
>> could we simply revert to the old behavior if mIoMmu == NULL?
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had time to look at these patches yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Eugene's concern: the directional DMA routines are much
>>>>> more performant on implementations with non-coherent DMA, and so
>>>>> common buffers should be avoided unless we are dealing with data
>>>>> structures that are truly shared between the CPU and the device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is obviously not the case here, could we please have some
>>>>> numbers about the performance improvement we are talking about here?
>>>>> Would it be possible to improve the IOMMU handling code instead?
>>>
>>>
>>> We collected the data below on a platform with release image and 
>>> Intel VTd
>>> enabled.
>>>
>>> The image size of EhciDxe or XhciDxe can reduce about 120+ bytes.
>>>
>>> EHCI without the patch:
>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>> S0000B00D1DF0        446        2150           4           2         963
>>>
>>> EHCI with the patch:
>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>> S0000B00D1DF0        270         742           2           2          41
>>>
>>> XHCI without the patch:
>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>> S0000B00D14F0        215         603           2           2          52
>>>
>>> XHCI with the patch:
>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>> S0000B00D14F0         95         294           3           2          52
>>>
>>> I believe the performance data really depends on
>>> 1. How many AsyncInterruptTransfer handlers (the number of USB keyboard
>>> and/or USB bluetooth keyboard?)
>>> 2. Data size (for flushing data from PCI controller specific address to
>>> mapped system memory address *in original code*)
>>> 3. The performance of IoMmu->SetAttribute (for example, the SetAttribute
>>> operation on Intel VTd engine caused by the unmap and map for 
>>> flushing data
>>> *in original code*, the SetAttribute operation on IntelVTd engine will
>>> involve FlushPageTableMemory, InvalidatePageEntry and etc)
>>>
>>
>> OK, so there is room for improvement here: there is no reason the
>> IOMMU driver couldn't cache mappings, or do some other optimizations
>> that would make mapping the same memory repeatedly less costly.
> 
> The unmap/map with IOMMU will direct to SetAttribute that will 
> disallow/allow DMA memory access. The IOMMU driver is hard to predict 
> the sequence of unmap/map operations. Do you have more detail about the 
> optimizations?
> 
> Could you take a try with the patch on the platform for the case you and 
> Eugene mentioned?
> 
> Anyway, I am going to revert the patches (3/4 and 4/4, since 1/4 and 2/4 
> have no functionality impact) since the time point is a little sensitive 
> as it is near edk2-stable201811.

I have reverted the patch 3/4 and 4/4 at 
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/compare/1ed6498...d98fc9a, and we can 
continue the discussion.


> 
> Thanks,
> Star
> 
>>
>>>>
>>>> On an unrelated note to the concerns above:
>>>> Why has a fundamental change to the behaviour of one of the industry
>>>> standard drivers been pushed at the very end of the stable cycle?
>>>
>>>
>>> We thought it was a simple improvement but not fundamental change before
>>> Eugene and Ard raised the concern.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Star
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Leif
>>>>
>>>



  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-26 13:41 [PATCH V3 0/4] Remove unnecessary Map/Unmap in XhciDxe/EhciDxe for AsyncInterruptTransfer Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 1/4] MdeModulePkg XhciDxe: Extract new XhciInsertAsyncIntTransfer function Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 2/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: Extract new EhciInsertAsyncIntTransfer function Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 3/4] MdeModulePkg XhciDxe: Use common buffer for AsyncInterruptTransfer Star Zeng
2018-10-27  7:47   ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 4/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: " Star Zeng
     [not found]   ` <CS1PR8401MB1189428C2915107C583C0A42B4CC0@CS1PR8401MB1189.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2018-10-30 12:39     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-30 12:50       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-10-31  4:38         ` Zeng, Star
2018-10-31 12:08           ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-01  1:12             ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-01 10:32               ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-06  9:49           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-06 14:37             ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-07 15:00               ` Zeng, Star [this message]
2018-11-07 15:14                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-28 13:35 ` [PATCH V3 0/4] Remove unnecessary Map/Unmap in XhciDxe/EhciDxe " Zeng, Star
2018-10-29  2:19 ` Ni, Ruiyu

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