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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	edk2-devel@lists.01.org
Cc: Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com, leo.duran@amd.com,
	Jeff Fan <jeff.fan@intel.com>, Liming Gao <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/17] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 22:40:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58fd11bf-accb-7b16-cd87-d1ba46edb499@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b79e292-e587-46a8-1f6a-a0483a01f8f7@amd.com>

On 07/06/17 22:11, Brijesh Singh wrote:
>
>
> On 07/06/2017 11:45 AM, Jordan Justen wrote:
>> On 2017-07-05 15:31:20, Brijesh Singh wrote:
>>> Hi Jordan and Laszlo,
>>>
>>> Ping.
>>>
>>> It has been a while, Do you have any further feedbacks on this
>>> series ? If you want then I can rebase the patches before you commit
>>> into upstream repos.
>>>
>>
>> I'm still dissappointed by the APRIORI usage.
>>
>> As I understand it, you are also dissatisfied with this approach and
>> you hope to improve things by somehow hooking into DXE Core. Is that
>> true? If so, can you create a bugzilla regarding this feature? When
>> would you plan to work to address that?
>>
>
> I think we agree in that this particular use-case has shown the need
> for re-thinking the existing GCD interface. However, the problem we
> are trying to solve with this patch-set is enabling the SEV feature.

I agree.

> As it turns out, we can do so within the existing GCD framework by
> simply leveraging the APRIORI hook already in use by OvmfPkg.

Not just in OvmfPkg. CorebootPayloadPkg, DuetPkg, EmulatorPkg, Nt32Pkg
and Vlv2TbltDevicePkg also use "APRIORI DXE".

See e.g. commit 70420e31a04b ("Nt32Pkg FDF: Move StatusCode Handler run
earlier in DXE phase", 2017-01-20).

> In that context, our proposal is that we limit the scope of this
> patch-set to simply enabling the SEV feature, and then allow the 'GCD
> experts' to separately propose updates to the framework.

I agree. Based on the past discussions, even said experts and edk2
maintainers aren't united on the optimal approach here.

I think filing a BZ (or even a PI spec ticket!) for figuring out the
best scope and location for the platformization of GCD, or for the same
of the page table setup, is justified.

However, I disagree that such a ticket should block this series, or that
Brijesh should prioritize such a ticket after this initial OVMF series
is merged. Brijesh has been handling SEV enablement in other projects as
well, such as KVM, and there's still a whole lot to do after these
initial OVMF patches are merged.

Laszlo


  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-06 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-26 14:43 [PATCH v6 00/17] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 01/17] UefiCpuPkg: Define AMD Memory Encryption specific CPUID and MSR Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 02/17] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: Set C-bit when building initial page table Brijesh Singh
2017-06-01  8:09   ` Jordan Justen
2017-06-01 13:43     ` Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 03/17] OvmfPkg: Update dsc to use IoLib from BaseIoLibIntrinsicSev.inf Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 04/17] OvmfPkg/BaseMemcryptSevLib: Add SEV helper library Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 20:54   ` Jordan Justen
2017-05-26 21:06     ` Brijesh Singh
2017-05-27  1:26       ` Yao, Jiewen
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 05/17] OvmfPkg/PlatformPei: Set memory encryption PCD when SEV is enabled Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 06/17] OvmfPkg: Add AmdSevDxe driver Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 07/17] OvmfPkg: Introduce IoMmuAbsent Protocol GUID Brijesh Singh
2017-05-29  9:07   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 08/17] OvmfPkg: Add PlatformHasIoMmuLib Brijesh Singh
2017-05-29  9:19   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 09/17] OvmfPkg: Add IoMmuDxe driver Brijesh Singh
2017-05-29  9:28   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 10/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Provide Pei and Dxe specific library Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 21:49   ` Jordan Justen
2017-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 11/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Prepare for SEV support Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 12/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Implement SEV internal function for SEC phase Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 13/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Implement SEV internal functions for PEI phase Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 14/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Implement SEV internal function for Dxe phase Brijesh Singh
2017-05-29  9:40   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-26 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 15/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Add option to dynamic alloc FW_CFG_DMA Access Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 16/17] OvmfPkg/QemuFwCfgLib: Add SEV support Brijesh Singh
2017-05-26 14:44 ` [PATCH v6 17/17] OvmfPkg: update PciHostBridgeDxe to use PlatformHasIoMmuLib Brijesh Singh
2017-05-29  9:47   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-29 12:13     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-26 21:05 ` [PATCH v6 00/17] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Jordan Justen
2017-05-29 11:16   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-05-29 20:38     ` Jordan Justen
2017-05-29 21:59       ` Brijesh Singh
2017-06-01  7:40         ` Jordan Justen
2017-06-01  9:10           ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-01 13:48             ` Andrew Fish
2017-06-01 14:56               ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-01 15:01               ` Brijesh Singh
2017-06-01 15:37                 ` Andrew Fish
2017-06-05 21:56             ` Brijesh Singh
2017-06-06  1:12               ` Jordan Justen
2017-06-06  2:08                 ` Zeng, Star
2017-06-06  3:50                   ` Brijesh Singh
2017-06-06 14:54                     ` Yao, Jiewen
2017-06-06 15:24                       ` Andrew Fish
2017-06-06 15:43                         ` Yao, Jiewen
2017-06-06 15:54                           ` Duran, Leo
2017-06-06 18:39                             ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-06 18:38                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-06 18:29                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-06 18:57                         ` Duran, Leo
2017-07-05 22:31 ` Brijesh Singh
2017-07-05 23:38   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-06 13:37     ` Brijesh Singh
2017-07-06 16:45   ` Jordan Justen
2017-07-06 20:11     ` Brijesh Singh
2017-07-06 20:40       ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2017-07-06 21:42       ` Jordan Justen
2017-07-06 21:44         ` Duran, Leo
2017-07-06 21:46         ` Andrew Fish
2017-07-06 21:49           ` Duran, Leo
2017-07-07  5:28             ` Jordan Justen
2017-07-07 18:29               ` Brijesh Singh
2017-07-07 23:10                 ` Jordan Justen

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