From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail02.groups.io (mail02.groups.io [66.175.222.108]) by spool.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21A2CD811BC for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:30:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=phZ3GnywkiWm1ZPX4lFrsHxE2mTLx2cOnPhYLwUNVpg=; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From:Cc:In-Reply-To:Precedence:List-Subscribe:List-Help:Sender:List-Id:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:Reply-To:List-Unsubscribe-Post:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Language:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; s=20140610; t=1706103051; v=1; b=br9ToJjrtF4YVI8V/wU1JwYvnE2d5tSikgjFBR2jVtiSvwrlkZCDfoGjK4dFwpDisHwqd1Ft gnX4S3jmzmwQ3h/3gEZb6HsfUYMSltNAAf6ZGvUZuXsZlTsH8ghdxxJ92ylXlhxNG7PwZiCCRkM xDPJS3xN0Pw30h/Wa0sh2HL4= X-Received: by 127.0.0.2 with SMTP id rK5yYY7687511x7FwQCP7Mbq; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 05:30:51 -0800 X-Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web11.22425.1706103051210222137 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 05:30:51 -0800 X-Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-610-kCK8WPoOOhWgDmRndw_ofA-1; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 08:30:47 -0500 X-MC-Unique: kCK8WPoOOhWgDmRndw_ofA-1 X-Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A229284FA81; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:30:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from [10.39.195.127] (unknown [10.39.195.127]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1072D111E408; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5e1d22f0-c82d-df5f-fd53-d16442f26dd3@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:30:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] Resources for Creating Packages To: devel@edk2.groups.io, ryderkeys@proton.me References: From: "Laszlo Ersek" Cc: Michael Kinney In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.11.54.3 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: List-Help: Sender: devel@edk2.groups.io List-Id: Mailing-List: list devel@edk2.groups.io; contact devel+owner@edk2.groups.io Reply-To: devel@edk2.groups.io,lersek@redhat.com List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click List-Unsubscribe: X-Gm-Message-State: fNBADrFIR6gr1VLGTuhUfoYAx7686176AA= Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GND-Status: LEGIT Authentication-Results: spool.mail.gandi.net; dkim=pass header.d=groups.io header.s=20140610 header.b=br9ToJjr; spf=pass (spool.mail.gandi.net: domain of bounce@groups.io designates 66.175.222.108 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bounce@groups.io; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=redhat.com (policy=none) meta (CC Mike): On 1/22/24 19:25, ryderkeys via groups.io wrote: > (Originally sent to edk2 discuss but it looks like my message has > been stuck in moderation for a week, so I thought I would try here > instead.) I'm now checking the moderation queue for edk2-discuss; I seem to have found your original message there. I'll allow it through in a minute. Problem: moderators don't get email notifications from groups.io about new items to moderate. (I certainly don't.) Other mailing list software tends to send out 1 reminder message per day, IIRC (e.g. Mailman2). This effectively requires moderators to check the WebUI daily, which is very annoying -- most of the time, there is nothing to moderate (or just junk mail to delete), so a daily check is a waste of time. Problem: on the actual WebUI, a few minutes ago I opened the Pending box, and it showed me 3 (three) messages. All of those were pending moderation for edk2-devel. I deleted them (they were all spam), and logged out. I have now logged back in, and am seeing 8 (eight) messages pending moderation -- this time for edk2-discuss. The issue is that the WebUI does not show a *summary* page to moderators -- I happen to be a moderator for 4 edk2 lists (devel, announce, discuss, rfc), and for covering all of those, I need to separately select *each list* first, and then check for pending items. In other words, multiply the annoyance described in the prior paragraph by four. :/ So, sorry about the delay. This is very easy to miss. Until 2021, checking all four moderation queues had been part of my daily (morning) routine, but since then, I've forgotten about it. Laszlo -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#114293): https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/114293 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/103892486/7686176 Group Owner: devel+owner@edk2.groups.io Unsubscribe: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/leave/12367111/7686176/19134562= 12/xyzzy [rebecca@openfw.io] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-