* Proposal to move Rust std work to edk2-staging
@ 2022-07-30 10:01 Ayush Singh
2022-08-01 14:49 ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Kubacki
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From: Ayush Singh @ 2022-07-30 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: devel@edk2.groups.io
Cc: Kinney, Michael D, mikuback@linux.microsoft.com,
Gaibusab, Jabeena B
Hello everyone. The work on Rust std for UEFI has been progressing
smoothly. Running Rust tests is now possible in it's entirety. The
number of tests that fail is 133 (4 cause exception + 129 normal fails)
out of 13,212 tests. Apart from the 4 tests that cause exceptions, most
of the 129 other tests can be ignored since they are caused by needing
dynamic linking and/or stack unwinding. So I think, it is time to start
considering moving the project to a more appropriate repository before I
open a PR upstream.
However, I do have some concerns regarding moving to edk2-staging:
1. Rust development workflow does not use Mailing lists and Patches.
This might create friction for the purely `rustc` developers who might
want to submit changes and are accustomed to PRs.
2. Rust project does not seem to care about maintaining a clean history
(most of the merges are performed by bots in form of roll-up merges).
This is much different from how edk2 projects are usually managed. The
reason where this becomes a problem is having to do re-bases. While Rust
provides strong guarantees for stability of user facing APIs, the
internal std APIs are constantly changing. Combine that with no
clean-history and the upstream PR will probably have to be re-based on
latest master every few weeks (and it will likely need manual intervention).
I am planning on getting the code base ready for upstream PR before 15th
August. The main things left to do is to publish new versions of
`compiler_builtins` and `r-efi` crates, and refactor the code and UEFI
documentation.
Yours Sincerely
Ayush Singh
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* Re: [edk2-devel] Proposal to move Rust std work to edk2-staging
2022-07-30 10:01 Proposal to move Rust std work to edk2-staging Ayush Singh
@ 2022-08-01 14:49 ` Michael Kubacki
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kubacki @ 2022-08-01 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: devel, ayushdevel1325; +Cc: Kinney, Michael D, Gaibusab, Jabeena B
Hi Ayush,
For the purposes of this work, please don't let process impede progress.
The main purpose of moving to edk2-staging is to broaden exposure of the
work and encourage additional collaboration. In particular, within the
Tianocore/edk2 community.
As the author, you can choose how to best present your work to the
communities - Rust and Tianocore.
I think it's reasonable to keep the edk2-staging repo light with
documentation, examples, and edk2-specific changes that reference the
Rust changes in your rust-lang/rust fork. The code in the edk2-staging
repo should ultimately aim to transition to an edk2 PR as the edk2
contribution from the project.
Regards,
Michael
On 7/30/2022 6:01 AM, Ayush Singh wrote:
> Hello everyone. The work on Rust std for UEFI has been progressing
> smoothly. Running Rust tests is now possible in it's entirety. The
> number of tests that fail is 133 (4 cause exception + 129 normal fails)
> out of 13,212 tests. Apart from the 4 tests that cause exceptions, most
> of the 129 other tests can be ignored since they are caused by needing
> dynamic linking and/or stack unwinding. So I think, it is time to start
> considering moving the project to a more appropriate repository before I
> open a PR upstream.
>
>
> However, I do have some concerns regarding moving to edk2-staging:
>
> 1. Rust development workflow does not use Mailing lists and Patches.
> This might create friction for the purely `rustc` developers who might
> want to submit changes and are accustomed to PRs.
>
> 2. Rust project does not seem to care about maintaining a clean history
> (most of the merges are performed by bots in form of roll-up merges).
> This is much different from how edk2 projects are usually managed. The
> reason where this becomes a problem is having to do re-bases. While Rust
> provides strong guarantees for stability of user facing APIs, the
> internal std APIs are constantly changing. Combine that with no
> clean-history and the upstream PR will probably have to be re-based on
> latest master every few weeks (and it will likely need manual
> intervention).
>
>
> I am planning on getting the code base ready for upstream PR before 15th
> August. The main things left to do is to publish new versions of
> `compiler_builtins` and `r-efi` crates, and refactor the code and UEFI
> documentation.
>
>
> Yours Sincerely
>
> Ayush Singh
>
>
>
>
>
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