From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail02.groups.io (mail02.groups.io [66.175.222.108]) by spool.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8795D8027F for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:38:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=vGg3Uk+kV58XcevbVN2pkMxLzN/U5FdUTKMeGht0Wxw=; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Precedence:List-Subscribe:List-Help:Sender:List-Id:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:Reply-To:List-Unsubscribe-Post:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding; s=20140610; t=1692628728; v=1; b=eS74dvqtxWy6CgnaM2LjPArgjA80CN7zSu97Fk0B4UFcLptoGrUvXYlLCspnNPiddz57rbHg 2aj2PofgDXp9eMIYmArspr/BSrL6nZh4tFQoaK7uqoSTLRMc2IZ4mexSjYn7e3JuJtXIvUfVlPY Y6hdzfTMVpUAko/vL8r9MjGw= X-Received: by 127.0.0.2 with SMTP id ACKnYY7687511xnRKBf2LPtY; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 07:38:48 -0700 X-Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.129.124]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web10.1029.1692628727892251091 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 07:38:48 -0700 X-Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (66.187.233.73 [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-75-N-OUQBOKPS-o8eVrv53HKA-1; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 10:38:43 -0400 X-MC-Unique: N-OUQBOKPS-o8eVrv53HKA-1 X-Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 573CF38210B9; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:38:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from sirius.home.kraxel.org (unknown [10.39.194.126]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27D5E1121314; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:38:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: by sirius.home.kraxel.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D89E218009DC; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:38:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:38:41 +0200 From: "Gerd Hoffmann" To: Pedro Falcato Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, marcin.juszkiewicz@linaro.org, osde@linux.microsoft.com, Leif Lindholm , Ard Biesheuvel , Sami Mujawar Subject: Re: [edk2-devel][PATCH v1 1/1] ArmVirtPkg: ArmVirtQemu: Add Graphics and Input Message-ID: <6ktgi7w4wzkeumn4u3buhmgsll5nf7lhgvbp2se6pddbgfo732@nghqr6sfquld> References: <20230818181751.12308-1-osde@linux.microsoft.com> <65f0e7ea-3f64-9f5c-4a90-8daec711898f@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.3 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: List-Help: Sender: devel@edk2.groups.io List-Id: Mailing-List: list devel@edk2.groups.io; contact devel+owner@edk2.groups.io Reply-To: devel@edk2.groups.io,kraxel@redhat.com List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click List-Unsubscribe: X-Gm-Message-State: EliZSQWOSJMM94rQFhPzhZ95x7686176AA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GND-Status: LEGIT Authentication-Results: spool.mail.gandi.net; dkim=pass header.d=groups.io header.s=20140610 header.b=eS74dvqt; spf=pass (spool.mail.gandi.net: domain of bounce@groups.io designates 66.175.222.108 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bounce@groups.io; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=redhat.com (policy=none) On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 11:10:07PM +0100, Pedro Falcato wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 8:39 PM Marcin Juszkiewicz > wrote: > > > > W dniu 18.08.2023 o 20:17, Oliver Smith-Denny pisze: > > > Currently, unlike OVMF, ArmVirtQemu does not display any graphics, only > > > the QEMU monitor. Graphics are helpful to confirm booting into an OS is > > > successful, interacting with the EFI shell while getting separate > > > logging messages, etc. > > > > Ah, that "but on x86 it is different" again ;D > > > > I asked QEMU (and libvirt) devs in past why AArch64/virt lacks USB while > > both x86/pc and x86/q35 have it. The answer was something like "it was a > > mistake we do not plan to repeat". And hint that whatever uses either > > QEMU or libvirt should take care of adding hardware they expect. > > I don't think x86 having USB was a mistake. PIIX4 (the "pc" machine) > already had USB 1.0, Q35 (ICH9) had USB 2.0 too. Not emulating those > automatically would be a mistake from the faithfulness PoV. If they > wanted to have a bare board, the option of just adding a virt board > variant with the bare minimum (PCIe and ACPI, like arm64 and riscv64 > do) is a fine idea. x86 microvm is very close to arm virt. There is even a ovmf variant for it ;) take care, Gerd -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#107920): https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/107920 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/100826022/7686176 Group Owner: devel+owner@edk2.groups.io Unsubscribe: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/unsub [rebecca@openfw.io] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-