From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=17.151.62.68; helo=nwk-aaemail-lapp03.apple.com; envelope-from=afish@apple.com; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from nwk-aaemail-lapp03.apple.com (nwk-aaemail-lapp03.apple.com [17.151.62.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AB1621183EF6 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 08:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (nwk-aaemail-lapp03.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by nwk-aaemail-lapp03.apple.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id wA2Euvh8020607; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 08:00:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=mime-version : content-transfer-encoding : content-type : sender : subject : from : in-reply-to : date : cc : message-id : references : to; s=20180706; bh=HtklNGY5vOTAeFsLLU18srbg3CTar8Lv7DQXdxxP9Cs=; b=E4I0A8vQqduBbW7+79FItuUy2lLx5N6URrSTDRThLgZpOigTJ+YrvflgfMpDM/tUzJGM BTclB62kGOwQbclxQdrAy1wNPmfA+HzQ94KUDk/KNkmjapj5/t3aXBlSpGZkXUBn7RGq cxEQsbmfRCiPQZ98EipgOKcJT4nuHbWgMmPTg2TW+a9DsUJSk2GoTkp+3AfnUZH499lO DDvvlbpLzf0YDVIxOzUdjEyEA82VVqoPa3u9M6vCSLyRwjQeuu9X/nw71pVC2HUlHtNk 8Kky7osD7eWPt4cjtU3is3wlUIHUXq0dII7h/f3VZXC36WzgnQrnx6znIxVtuiy6IxBu QQ== Received: from ma1-mtap-s03.corp.apple.com (ma1-mtap-s03.corp.apple.com [17.40.76.7]) by nwk-aaemail-lapp03.apple.com with ESMTP id 2ncmjchpfp-21 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:00:59 -0700 MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com [17.171.128.150]) by ma1-mtap-s03.corp.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) with ESMTPS id <0PHK00090N1MLE10@ma1-mtap-s03.corp.apple.com>; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from process_viserion-daemon.ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com by ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) id <0PHK00L00MPVCJ00@ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Va-A: X-Va-T-CD: 04ca32df9c4d947bbb3e328bdd0d72ed X-Va-E-CD: 6550dacdc721f5459e1de27ca9705dfe X-Va-R-CD: 5711bf0832540db373fdc2343f91811f X-Va-CD: 0 X-Va-ID: 8b9e4344-4ea5-4b98-9c73-453d5fe73966 X-V-A: X-V-T-CD: b42b19783b60c2d3c1a139466a0c562a X-V-E-CD: 6550dacdc721f5459e1de27ca9705dfe X-V-R-CD: 5711bf0832540db373fdc2343f91811f X-V-CD: 0 X-V-ID: f3482a92-b63c-4630-803e-0ffca5bb9ebc Received: from process_milters-daemon.ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com by ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) id <0PHK00L00MQGYB00@ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-11-02_10:,, signatures=0 Received: from [17.234.195.53] (unknown [17.234.195.53]) by ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PHK001SRN1J5B20@ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: afish@apple.com From: Andrew Fish In-reply-to: <20181101090133.3pctu4pjjpqxafqi@bivouac.eciton.net> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:00:53 -0700 Cc: "Gao, Liming" , "Fu, Siyuan" , Mike Kinney , "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" Message-id: <70B89D83-7619-4DEA-88C0-391DCE660DBE@apple.com> References: <20181030104650.clfifj46fbemadnb@bivouac.eciton.net> <20181031105003.5vzguraclqhe4bqy@bivouac.eciton.net> <4A89E2EF3DFEDB4C8BFDE51014F606A14E362EEC@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com> <20181101090133.3pctu4pjjpqxafqi@bivouac.eciton.net> To: Leif Lindholm X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-11-02_10:, , signatures=0 Subject: Re: Reminder for deleting 3 network drivers in MdeModulePkg X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 15:01:00 -0000 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII > On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:01 AM, Leif Lindholm wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 06:01:31AM +0000, Gao, Liming wrote: >> Leif: >> If all Stewards agree this change to remove MdeModulePkg >> Tcp4Dxe/UefiPxeBcDxe/IScsiDxe, we will try to include it in >> edk2-stable201811 stable tag. >> >> Andrew and Mike: >> Do you agree this change to happen in near edk2-stable201811 >> stable tag? > > No no no. I was suggesting deleting them immediately _after_ the > stable tag (if review is complete by then). > Sounds good to me too. Thanks, Andrew Fish > Regards, > > Leif > >> >> Thanks >> Liming >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of Leif >>> Lindholm >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:50 PM >>> To: Fu, Siyuan >>> Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Reminder for deleting 3 network drivers in >>> MdeModulePkg >>> >>> Hi Fu Siyuan, >>> >>> That is fine too. >>> But I expect the change to be one to go in the week after a stable tag >>> has been made. >>> >>> (My own philosophy is that one can be quite aggressive with removals, >>> because if it turns out to have been a bad idea, git revert can >>> quickly restore the tree to the state it was.) >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Leif >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 02:58:47AM +0000, Fu, Siyuan wrote: >>>> Hi, Leif >>>> >>>> Just notice that you are saying edk2-stable201811 tag. >>>> >>>> We need more time to collect community/marketing feedback on >>>> deleting these driver, so it may won't be able to catch the stable >>>> tag in next month. >>>> >>>> BestRegards >>>> Fu Siyuan >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Fu, Siyuan >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:49 AM >>>>> To: Leif Lindholm >>>>> Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>>>> Subject: RE: [edk2] Reminder for deleting 3 network drivers in >>>>> MdeModulePkg >>>>> >>>>> Hi, Leif >>>>> >>>>> I think checking the branch is a little better than the tag, because we >>>>> may still have critical bug fixes after the official release. >>>>> >>>>> While any of them are not recommended, always using the NetworkPkg >>> version >>>>> driver is the best choice. >>>>> >>>>> I will modify the edk2 network wiki page for an updated sample DSC/FDF >>>>> section, if this patch could pass review w/o objection. >>>>> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/NetworkPkg- >>> Getting- >>>>> Started-Guide >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BestRegards >>>>> Fu Siyuan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf >>> Of >>>>>> Leif Lindholm >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 6:47 PM >>>>>> To: Fu, Siyuan >>>>>> Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Reminder for deleting 3 network drivers in >>>>>> MdeModulePkg >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Fu Siyan, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 08:11:52AM +0000, Fu, Siyuan wrote: >>>>>>> People who want to continue use these deleted drivers could go to >>>>>>> edk2/UDK2018 branch to get them, but it's *highly not recommended*. >>>>>> >>>>>> They should also be able to use edk2-stable201811, right? >>>>>> >>>>>>> *If you have any opposition on deleting these drivers, please let me >>>>>>> know before this weekend, thanks.* >>>>>> >>>>>> I am all for this change. The diffstat is very nice :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Leif >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> edk2-devel mailing list >>>>>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>>>>> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> edk2-devel mailing list >>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel