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From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: "Richardson, Brian" <brian.richardson@intel.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>
Cc: "Leif Lindholm" <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Rebecca Cran" <rebecca@bluestop.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] "via Groups.io"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:42:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7151650b-95f4-afaf-9d65-fb26b36d800f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80AC2BAA3152784F98F581129E5CF5AFCAF74B05@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com>

On 11/12/19 18:37, Richardson, Brian wrote:
> Per the groups.io FAQ...
> 
> https://groups.io/static/help#why-are-emails-from-some-people-changed-to-be-via-groups-io
> 
> Why Are Emails From Some People Changed To Be 'via Groups.io'?
> 
> The reason that some email addresses are changed to be 'via Groups.io' is because of something called DMARC. Some email services, like Yahoo and AOL, have set up their DMARC profiles so that we have to change all their users' email addresses to this form, otherwise the messages would bounce. This is not limited to Groups.io, all email groups services have to do this.

Right, thank you. We've reported this internally at Red Hat.

Sorry about the noise, and thanks for the help!
Laszlo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:30 AM
> To: edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>
> Cc: Richardson, Brian <brian.richardson@intel.com>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>; David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>; Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bluestop.org>; Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] "via Groups.io"
> 
> +Phil
> 
> On 11/12/19 14:59, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 11/12/19 14:51, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've noticed that, recently, the messages I post are reflected by 
>>> groups.io with a sender named
>>>
>>>   "Laszlo Ersek via Groups.Io"
>>>
>>> This is nothing short of brain-damaged, and should be reverted 
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>> Now, I'm 100% sure that I personally haven't changed anything in 
>>> either my email setup, or in my groups.io account. Therefore, it is 
>>> either a change in groups.io, or a change in the Red Hat email infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I can't tell where I should start looking / complaining.
>>> Can someone give me hints please?
>>>
>>> I've compared the email headers on the following two messages (both 
>>> attached, for convenience):
>>>
>>> - Last correctly reflected message:
>>>   http://mid.mail-archive.com/927a6e50-1106-92d1-3480-4d4492ca2340@redhat.com
>>>   https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/50310
>>>
>>> - First incorrectly (with munged sender) reflected message:
>>>   http://mid.mail-archive.com/0a690fc0-e551-b94e-e129-d5f02d76a62a@redhat.com
>>>   https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/50365
>>>
>>> In the bogus message, I see a bunch of "mimecast.com" references, 
>>> plus headers like: "ARC-Message-Signature", "ARC-Seal", 
>>> "ARC-Authentication-Results".
>>>
>>> Is this another botched anti-spam attempt?
>>
>> I've just found Rebecca's link from earlier:
>>
>> http://mid.mail-archive.com/3bf99bba-364a-edb5-49ac-cd5a225f48eb@blues
>> top.org
>>
>> -->
>>
>> https://groups.io/static/help#dmarc
>>
>> So it's probably a change in the RH mail infrastructure. /facepalm
>>
>> I'll see what I can do. :(
> 
> This is honestly a catastrophe: I see the same has happened to Phil's messages!
> 
> Compare:
> 
> http://mid.mail-archive.com/5ccaa1d4-714d-f785-e57d-bbd2c8e4596e@redhat.com
> http://mid.mail-archive.com/6a59c2de-daf8-9555-d9ef-54a4734619d9@redhat.com
> 
> Both are attached, too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
> 
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-12 13:51 "via Groups.io" Laszlo Ersek
2019-11-12 13:59 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-11-12 14:30   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-11-12 17:37     ` [edk2-devel] " Brian Richardson
2019-11-12 17:42       ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-11-13  7:59         ` test message, please ignore Laszlo Ersek

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