From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-1.mimecast.com [207.211.31.120]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web11.109.1573580561680786470 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:42:42 -0800 Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io; dkim=pass header.i=@redhat.com header.s=mimecast20190719 header.b=fA0uRtuS; spf=pass (domain: redhat.com, ip: 207.211.31.120, mailfrom: lersek@redhat.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1573580560; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ESlsCl+bSKAMDGef8/Wlj6Q2Zp5Jo7ucQTjofPga5kg=; b=fA0uRtuSVOeIRUNsxf/qNZ/XY2xYf2owgLiRtNEA4DW9E0A9gd03PgaalptYZLJdyh8uwC 46cxBtplEy+d3M4paLIJv4lLt/cwAkAyA7Se6YbmJYJafNWLYQwk3tIpNX6PigsoMxJ/rs 2oBSG9zVtxwe3lPkGEtnl73Mk/F4Dzg= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-289-y7_cU5flN7Gjo05isryymg-1; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:42:38 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB9BE107ACC4; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lacos-laptop-7.usersys.redhat.com (ovpn-116-207.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.207]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA0560923; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] "via Groups.io" To: "Richardson, Brian" , "devel@edk2.groups.io" Cc: Leif Lindholm , David Woodhouse , Rebecca Cran , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= References: <6762152c-5676-1495-29f8-841fe47409b2@redhat.com> <4a794f7d-6c7a-b512-54b1-574d938df248@redhat.com> <80AC2BAA3152784F98F581129E5CF5AFCAF74B05@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com> From: "Laszlo Ersek" Message-ID: <7151650b-95f4-afaf-9d65-fb26b36d800f@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:42:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <80AC2BAA3152784F98F581129E5CF5AFCAF74B05@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-MC-Unique: y7_cU5flN7Gjo05isryymg-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/12/19 18:37, Richardson, Brian wrote: > Per the groups.io FAQ... >=20 > https://groups.io/static/help#why-are-emails-from-some-people-changed-to= -be-via-groups-io >=20 > Why Are Emails From Some People Changed To Be 'via Groups.io'? >=20 > The reason that some email addresses are changed to be 'via Groups.io' i= s because of something called DMARC. Some email services, like Yahoo and AO= L, have set up their DMARC profiles so that we have to change all their use= rs' email addresses to this form, otherwise the messages would bounce. This= is not limited to Groups.io, all email groups services have to do this. Right, thank you. We've reported this internally at Red Hat. Sorry about the noise, and thanks for the help! Laszlo > -----Original Message----- > From: devel@edk2.groups.io On Behalf Of Laszlo Er= sek > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:30 AM > To: edk2-devel-groups-io > Cc: Richardson, Brian ; Leif Lindholm ; David Woodhouse ; Rebecca Cran <= rebecca@bluestop.org>; Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] "via Groups.io" >=20 > +Phil >=20 > On 11/12/19 14:59, Laszlo Ersek wrote: >> On 11/12/19 14:51, Laszlo Ersek wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've noticed that, recently, the messages I post are reflected by=20 >>> groups.io with a sender named >>> >>> "Laszlo Ersek via Groups.Io" >>> >>> This is nothing short of brain-damaged, and should be reverted=20 >>> immediately. >>> >>> Now, I'm 100% sure that I personally haven't changed anything in=20 >>> either my email setup, or in my groups.io account. Therefore, it is=20 >>> either a change in groups.io, or a change in the Red Hat email infrast= ructure. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I can't tell where I should start looking / complaining= . >>> Can someone give me hints please? >>> >>> I've compared the email headers on the following two messages (both=20 >>> attached, for convenience): >>> >>> - Last correctly reflected message: >>> http://mid.mail-archive.com/927a6e50-1106-92d1-3480-4d4492ca2340@red= hat.com >>> https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/50310 >>> >>> - First incorrectly (with munged sender) reflected message: >>> http://mid.mail-archive.com/0a690fc0-e551-b94e-e129-d5f02d76a62a@red= hat.com >>> https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/50365 >>> >>> In the bogus message, I see a bunch of "mimecast.com" references,=20 >>> plus headers like: "ARC-Message-Signature", "ARC-Seal",=20 >>> "ARC-Authentication-Results". >>> >>> Is this another botched anti-spam attempt? >> >> I've just found Rebecca's link from earlier: >> >> http://mid.mail-archive.com/3bf99bba-364a-edb5-49ac-cd5a225f48eb@blues >> top.org >> >> --> >> >> https://groups.io/static/help#dmarc >> >> So it's probably a change in the RH mail infrastructure. /facepalm >> >> I'll see what I can do. :( >=20 > This is honestly a catastrophe: I see the same has happened to Phil's me= ssages! >=20 > Compare: >=20 > http://mid.mail-archive.com/5ccaa1d4-714d-f785-e57d-bbd2c8e4596e@redhat.= com > http://mid.mail-archive.com/6a59c2de-daf8-9555-d9ef-54a4734619d9@redhat.= com >=20 > Both are attached, too. >=20 > Thanks, > Laszlo >=20 >=20 >=20