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From: "Tomas Pilar (tpilar)" <tpilar@solarflare.com>
To: <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:46:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71c2f44a-d828-d8b5-2fb6-7602b8aa9dc2@solarflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08c22515-92a7-ea6d-0290-5f2490528565@redhat.com>

All of these reasons (along with scalability) is why the linux kernel development hasn't moved from email mailing lists and they have tried several times.

Cheers,
Tom

On 16/11/2018 22:14, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 16/11/18 21:46, stephano wrote:
>> This looks great.
>>
>> I'm going to dig in a bit and see if we can export discussions for logging purposes or if they are locked into Github.
>
> For people on the move, having bad internet (3rd world countries), email system is very powerful, you can download once and work offline, reading/answering. You can also download the list archive and refers to it offline. You also have access to all patches and can apply them offline too.
>
> Is this possible with GitHub?
>
> Maybe the open source alternative, GitLab, offers a such feature.
>
> Googling "gitlab offline" I get:
>
> "Many of our customers do not have regular Internet access and many of them, being highly regulated, cannot install local copies of GitLab to be able to run against the provided API. [...] The work, published as the gitlab-ci-yaml_lint gem, is my attempt at a start to solving the issue."
>
> This is not what I expected, but it confirms some people have troubles working with online-only services.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil.
>
>>
>> git clone git://tianocore.discussion ? :)
>>
>> On 11/16/2018 11:55 AM, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>>> Hi Stephano,
>>>
>>> GitHub supports discussions for teams.
>>>
>>> If we added a new team to the GitHub TianoCore
>>> organization for all developers that want to be
>>> involved in community topics and design discussions
>>> (which should closely match the current members of
>>> edk2-devel) then that may be a simple option that
>>> uses services that already there.
>>>
>>> Another option is to use discussions for one of the
>>> exiting teams (e.g. Tianocore Maintainers) and make
>>> posts for these discussion topics public.
>>>
>>> https://blog.github.com/2017-11-20-introducing-team-discussions/
>>>
>>> https://help.github.com/articles/about-team-discussions/
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of stephano
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:14 AM
>>>> To: Zimmer, Vincent <vincent.zimmer@intel.com>; edk2-
>>>> devel@lists.01.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration
>>>> Software
>>>>
>>>> The only reason I didn't include Slack is that it will
>>>> only log so much
>>>> information before things start falling off into the
>>>> ether.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone in the community currently use Slack and know
>>>> of an easy way
>>>> of archiving conversations publicly?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/16/2018 9:56 AM, Zimmer, Vincent wrote:
>>>>> https://slack.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-
>>>> bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of Kevin D Davis
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:35 AM
>>>>> To: stephano <stephano.cetola@linux.intel.com>; edk2-
>>>> devel@lists.01.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration
>>>> Software
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           If we get to vote, I’d vote against Google
>>>> Groups.  Their interface is very geared toward their
>>>> internal work flow and seems to change on a whim.
>>>> Thanks,Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:08 AM -0600, "stephano"
>>>> <stephano.cetola@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are looking to augment our current communication
>>>> methods (mailing list / IRC) with a modern solution for
>>>> group collaboration. The goal is to allow folks to
>>>> communicate effectively without interrupting the current
>>>> patch review system, as well as enabling any future
>>>> systems with more robust options.
>>>>>
>>>>> Specific features we are looking for include
>>>> attachments (currently blocked by the list), robust
>>>> logging, modern chat, and integration with tools like bug
>>>> trackers and source repositories (APIs, or better yet,
>>>> pre-rolled plugins).
>>>>>
>>>>> Our current contenders are Google Groups and Groups.io.
>>>> This RFC is in hopes of finding other options to
>>>> evaluate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Stephano
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-19 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-16 16:59 [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software stephano
2018-11-16 17:35 ` Kevin D Davis
2018-11-16 17:56   ` Zimmer, Vincent
2018-11-16 19:13     ` stephano
2018-11-16 19:55       ` Kinney, Michael D
2018-11-16 20:46         ` stephano
2018-11-16 22:14           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-11-17  0:34             ` stephano
2018-11-17  0:37               ` Rebecca Cran
2018-11-17  1:36                 ` stephano
2018-11-19 10:46             ` Tomas Pilar (tpilar) [this message]
2018-11-17  2:42         ` Sean Brogan
2018-11-17  4:58           ` Rebecca Cran
2018-11-17 19:01           ` stephano
2018-11-17 21:22             ` Rudra ठाकुर
2018-11-17 22:03           ` Rebecca Cran
2018-11-16 20:52       ` Rebecca Cran
2018-11-16 21:42         ` stephano
2018-11-16 21:51           ` Rebecca Cran
2018-11-17  0:22             ` stephano

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