From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=148.163.129.52; helo=dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com; envelope-from=tpilar@solarflare.com; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com [148.163.129.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 312F921A07A92 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 02:46:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Proofpoint Essentials engine Received: from webmail.solarflare.com (webmail.solarflare.com [12.187.104.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1-us4.ppe-hosted.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTPS id 72A48BC008F for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tp-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com (10.17.20.51) by ocex03.SolarFlarecom.com (10.20.40.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 02:46:08 -0800 To: References: <6535b4dd-57ac-856c-e013-ae8b3203c550@linux.intel.com> <3FEC98D0C33031D6.0465ECFF-1E41-4227-B64B-45BCF39396EA@mail.outlook.com> <76DE84138CBE89489874B70B432D8F9BC7EBA888@ORSMSX105.amr.corp.intel.com> <8a7fa4f2-2a6a-6af3-943b-e64395df270b@linux.intel.com> <08c22515-92a7-ea6d-0290-5f2490528565@redhat.com> From: "Tomas Pilar (tpilar)" Message-ID: <71c2f44a-d828-d8b5-2fb6-7602b8aa9dc2@solarflare.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:46:06 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08c22515-92a7-ea6d-0290-5f2490528565@redhat.com> X-Originating-IP: [10.17.20.51] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-12.5.0.1300-8.5.1010-24232.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No-35.999500-4.000000-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: x2HXvaraFonAIiGVQCd+FoSvKOGqLLPKKFFZAe4nyZ4bVUVEY6U/r9OG jZUqGWjE1Fc61VCGvh3d4vhcQjqAMotSV2URmoHxW7gz/Gbgpl5t3qsaFY4DBA2Y8xyy93kWg/W aDx4z2Bn3fRVqXSxO2NSjMw7axZvh/Un+enHqUbU1CmKclztgU7jqaj+29pPc31GU/N5W5BBIQA ER+BbtZkC+Fhu1qmNq1ODCOjActGZ80yFIYo0rRqZSuCk/sJbMH181YDtIVapzjAlza2E1oq3h6 Fc3H5G185cxgOCh1jzfOX4vEq5EGrM5yFdOCNfRE0Q83A2vD+vMwfm5koJdLRHfiujuTbedikyr gGzY/EBEWyqmHrvq4BcRpPm6GTDM3mSy8qTrTEISlrPJ5O7nPBC26qzoFs8n/k12Sb2MaHneGT3 bpSCId2KQXaUGVpbv982gifjM7v30GGSQQaBfEeYAh37ZsBDCHTzSJQBZgdFgg+UjPGL1RePPPD 7GX1Nmjl6DhQnk5L0E/FDydllnL9r9NriaWGfDjoyKzEmtrEcr8x/jkA92fsWkDW4kV3Wa/mMZD oe9NguW1Gy/B8rTZx5hmP6OM/PJv1l2Uvx6idrQLMMjQrtwDPoA9r2LThYYKrauXd3MZDUMFsa+ 1wyh/JRMZUCEHkRt X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No X-TMASE-Result: 10--35.999500-4.000000 X-TMASE-Version: SMEX-12.5.0.1300-8.5.1010-24232.006 X-MDID: 1542624372-l2VPAmdoOAWN Subject: Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:46:15 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US All of these reasons (along with scalability) is why the linux kernel development hasn't moved from email mailing lists and they have tried several times. Cheers, Tom On 16/11/2018 22:14, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > On 16/11/18 21:46, stephano wrote: >> This looks great. >> >> I'm going to dig in a bit and see if we can export discussions for logging purposes or if they are locked into Github. > > For people on the move, having bad internet (3rd world countries), email system is very powerful, you can download once and work offline, reading/answering. You can also download the list archive and refers to it offline. You also have access to all patches and can apply them offline too. > > Is this possible with GitHub? > > Maybe the open source alternative, GitLab, offers a such feature. > > Googling "gitlab offline" I get: > > "Many of our customers do not have regular Internet access and many of them, being highly regulated, cannot install local copies of GitLab to be able to run against the provided API. [...] The work, published as the gitlab-ci-yaml_lint gem, is my attempt at a start to solving the issue." > > This is not what I expected, but it confirms some people have troubles working with online-only services. > > Regards, > > Phil. > >> >> git clone git://tianocore.discussion ? :) >> >> On 11/16/2018 11:55 AM, Kinney, Michael D wrote: >>> Hi Stephano, >>> >>> GitHub supports discussions for teams. >>> >>> If we added a new team to the GitHub TianoCore >>> organization for all developers that want to be >>> involved in community topics and design discussions >>> (which should closely match the current members of >>> edk2-devel) then that may be a simple option that >>> uses services that already there. >>> >>> Another option is to use discussions for one of the >>> exiting teams (e.g. Tianocore Maintainers) and make >>> posts for these discussion topics public. >>> >>> https://blog.github.com/2017-11-20-introducing-team-discussions/ >>> >>> https://help.github.com/articles/about-team-discussions/ >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] >>>> On Behalf Of stephano >>>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:14 AM >>>> To: Zimmer, Vincent ; edk2- >>>> devel@lists.01.org >>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration >>>> Software >>>> >>>> The only reason I didn't include Slack is that it will >>>> only log so much >>>> information before things start falling off into the >>>> ether. >>>> >>>> Does anyone in the community currently use Slack and know >>>> of an easy way >>>> of archiving conversations publicly? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/16/2018 9:56 AM, Zimmer, Vincent wrote: >>>>> https://slack.com/ >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel- >>>> bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of Kevin D Davis >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:35 AM >>>>> To: stephano ; edk2- >>>> devel@lists.01.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration >>>> Software >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>           If we get to vote, I’d vote against Google >>>> Groups.  Their interface is very geared toward their >>>> internal work flow and seems to change on a whim. >>>> Thanks,Kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:08 AM -0600, "stephano" >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are looking to augment our current communication >>>> methods (mailing list / IRC) with a modern solution for >>>> group collaboration. The goal is to allow folks to >>>> communicate effectively without interrupting the current >>>> patch review system, as well as enabling any future >>>> systems with more robust options. >>>>> >>>>> Specific features we are looking for include >>>> attachments (currently blocked by the list), robust >>>> logging, modern chat, and integration with tools like bug >>>> trackers and source repositories (APIs, or better yet, >>>> pre-rolled plugins). >>>>> >>>>> Our current contenders are Google Groups and Groups.io. >>>> This RFC is in hopes of finding other options to >>>> evaluate. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Stephano >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> edk2-devel mailing list >>>>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>>>> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> edk2-devel mailing list >>>>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>>>> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> edk2-devel mailing list >>>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org >>>> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel >> _______________________________________________ >> edk2-devel mailing list >> edk2-devel@lists.01.org >> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel > _______________________________________________ > edk2-devel mailing list > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel