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From: Tim Lewis <tim.lewis@insyde.com>
To: Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	"edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, dealing with .depex
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 17:03:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7236196A5DF6C040855A6D96F556A53F3D8635@msmail.insydesw.com.tw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <147003498665.24223.12312501403228549999@jljusten-ivb>

Jordan --

As a company that delivers a lot of mixed binary/source builds, we see .depex as actually important for ease of maintenance. The .fdf syntax can work, as you mention, but it is actually requires an extra step for those of us maintaining binary modules. Why? Because .depex is derived from the .inf of the module *and* the .infs of all library instances which the module is linked against. While this can be tracked down using a build report, it is problematic and likely to introduce hard to track bugs. Since .depex is a normal product of the source build process, it is convenient.

As for the open-source, I would only note that it is used only in the exact same cases where the module itself is delivered as a binary. In fact, it could be checked in to the tree as a complete FFS file (no .efi at all).

Thanks,

Tim




-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Justen [mailto:jordan.l.justen@intel.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:03 AM
To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>; Tim Lewis <tim.lewis@insyde.com>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Subject: RE: [edk2] [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, dealing with .depex

On 2016-07-31 16:52:23, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> Jordan,
> 
> UEFI Drivers distributed as binaries do not need depex sections.
> 
> PI modules distributed as binaries do require a .depex binary.
> 

They may require a depex, but, as mentioned below, they can also add it directly in the .fdf. As it stands, apparently we have 1 .depex file in the tree, and it is unused.

Aside from this, under what conditions would we take such binaries into the EDK II tree? Today we have the ShellPkg and FatPkg binaries in the EDK II tree, but we recently discussed removing even those.

For an open source project, I think it is best to not have pre-built binaries, unless there is some very compelling reason. Previously there was some license funniness on FatPkg, but now that is gone. If it took an hour to build FatPkg, then that might also be something to discuss. :)

I don't think adding the .gitattributes is really a problem, aside from the fact that it implies that we might actually have a reason to add a .depex file to the source tree.

-Jordan

> So I would recommend .depex binary files be treated the same as binary 
> .efi files by GIT.  So it does sound like we need some minor updates 
> to GIT attributes.
> 
> If we have an example of a binary module that is providing more binary 
> leaf sections than are actually required and/or used, then yes, the 
> binary module should be cleaned up to remove the unused content.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justen, Jordan L
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:58 PM
> > To: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>; Tim Lewis 
> > <tim.lewis@insyde.com>
> > Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D 
> > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; edk2-devel@ml01.01.org 
> > <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>; Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, 
> > dealing with .depex
> > 
> > On 2016-07-30 11:33:43, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> > > Hi Tim,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the warning, and investigation.
> > >
> > > Does this mean that you think we should ban the inclusion of 
> > > .depex files in EDK2, including future platform trees?
> > 
> > I don't know about banning it, but at least we could wait for 
> > someone to make a reasonable argument why they are needed.
> > 
> > Even for binary only modules, it looks like the fdf method outlined 
> > below is preferable to a pre-built .depex.
> > 
> > If (at a future point) the reason for using a .depex is to support a 
> > binary only module in a supposedly open platform under EDK II, then 
> > I guess we can decide if that is a good idea at that point.
> > 
> > Should we delete this one unused .depex from the tree?
> > 
> > -Jordan
> > 
> > > (If not, this patch is
> > > still needed for git to work predictably with these files.)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:49PM +0000, Tim Lewis wrote:
> > > > It appears that this file is not actually used. It is only 
> > > > referenced in the [Rule.Common.UEFI_DRIVER.NATIVE_BINARY] rule 
> > > > in PlatformPkg.fdf. A little further research shows that an 
> > > > alternate method was used for the actual GOP binary (see below). 
> > > > A grep of the entire tree shows that no one uses this rule 
> > > > NATIVE_BINARY. So it looks like it can just be cut out.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the downside of the method used for the binary version of 
> > > > the GOP driver, is that those drivers cannot use PCDs, since the 
> > > > PCD database is created based on references in the .inf. GOP 
> > > > works because it is pure UEFI and (therefore) doesn't use PCDs.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > FILE DRIVER = FF0C8745-3270-4439-B74F-3E45F8C77064 {
> > > >   SECTION DXE_DEPEX_EXP = {gPlatformGOPPolicyGuid}
> > > >   SECTION PE32 =
> > Vlv2MiscBinariesPkg/GOP/7.2.1011/RELEASE_VS2008x86/$(DXE_ARCHITECTUR
> > E)/IntelGopDriver.e
> > fi
> > > >   SECTION UI = "IntelGopDriver"
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On 
> > > > Behalf Of Leif
> > Lindholm
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:45 AM
> > > > To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: michael.d.kinney@intel.com; Jordan Justen 
> > > > <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>; edk2-
> > devel@ml01.01.org; Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, 
> > > > dealing with .depex
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 05:03:13PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > > > > On 07/07/16 16:24, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> > > > > > Git tends to see .depex files as text, causing hideous 
> > > > > > patches being generated (and breaking PatchCheck.py).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Add a .gitattributes file instructing git to treat them as binary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.0
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  .gitattributes | 1 +
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)  create mode 100644 
> > > > > > .gitattributes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/.gitattributes b/.gitattributes new file mode 
> > > > > > 100644 index 0000000..2d8a45b
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/.gitattributes
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1 @@
> > > > > > +*.depex binary
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What generates .depex files? I've never seen any.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, unless you add .depex files with "git add" to the set of 
> > > > > tracked files, no patches / diffs should cover them. What am I 
> > > > > missing? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > ... Hm, after
> > > > >
> > > > > $ find . -iname "*.depex"
> > > > >
> > > > > I see .depex files in Build/ (which should be ignored 
> > > > > altogether), and
> > > > >
> > > > > ./Vlv2TbltDevicePkg/IntelGopDepex/IntelGopDriver.depex
> > > > >
> > > > > Why does that file exist in the tree? Let me see... git log 
> > > > > says nothing relevant
> > (the file dates back to commit 3cbfba02fef9, "Upload BSD-licensed 
> > Vlv2TbltDevicePkg and Vlv2DeviceRefCodePkg to").
> > > > >
> > > > > Grepping the tree for the filename itself leads to:
> > > > >
> > > > > Vlv2TbltDevicePkg/PlatformPkg.fdf:    DXE_DEPEX DXE_DEPEX Optional
> > $(WORKSPACE)/$(PLATFORM_PACKAGE)/IntelGopDepex/IntelGopDriver.depex
> > > > > Vlv2TbltDevicePkg/PlatformPkgGcc.fdf:    DXE_DEPEX DXE_DEPEX Optional
> > $(WORKSPACE)/$(PLATFORM_PACKAGE)/IntelGopDepex/IntelGopDriver.depex
> > > > >
> > > > > Do these rules exist to override the DEPEX sections of 
> > > > > binary-only modules? If
> > so: that's horrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, given that edk2 contains at least one .depex file, and 
> > > > > your patch is
> > correct according to <https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Attributes>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I had hoped for comments from someone else on cc, since we don't 
> > > > have any
> > Maintainers.txt entry for the top level directory :)
> > > >
> > > > But if I don't hear anything before Monday, I'll push it then.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Leif
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > edk2-devel mailing list
> > > > edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> > > > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-01 17:03 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] ` <e43953db-6653-4f16-d7f4-36702a5ea8c3@redhat.com>
2016-07-29 16:44   ` [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, dealing with .depex Leif Lindholm
2016-07-29 17:12     ` Tim Lewis
2016-07-30 18:33       ` Leif Lindholm
2016-07-31 22:58         ` Jordan Justen
2016-07-31 23:52           ` Kinney, Michael D
2016-08-01  7:03             ` Jordan Justen
2016-08-01  8:19               ` Leif Lindholm
2016-08-01 16:56                 ` Kinney, Michael D
2016-08-01 17:03               ` Tim Lewis [this message]
2016-08-02  1:59                 ` Gao, Liming

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