Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH] Support skipping automatic BM enumeration

["Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>]

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Andrew,
PlatformBootManagerBeforeConsole() and PlatformBootManagerAfterConsole() are the only two hook points and I think they are general enough so that any thing can be done in the two points.

WIKI is a good way to explain. I will consider that : )

Thanks,
Ray

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Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH] Support skipping automatic BM enumeration

Ray,

Is there an obvious hook point we could point Jeff and Ashish at?

Long term it would be a good idea to have a Wiki page to give some guidance on how to customize the BDS.

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


On Nov 5, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com<mailto:ray.ni@intel.com>> wrote:

Andrew,
I agree with your opinion.
It’s expected that Platform Boot Manager lib calls EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption() only in full configuration boot path.
The full configuration boot path is chosen when hardware changes happen. So it’s not expected EfiBootManagerRefresh…() be
called in every boot.
So you could:

  1.  Delete the auto-created option pointing to LoadFile instance
  2.  Create your own one with customized description.


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Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH] Support skipping automatic BM enumeration





On Nov 5, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Jeff Brasen <jbrasen@nvidia.com<mailto:jbrasen@nvidia.com>> wrote:


Wouldn't having a variable that we create and delete on every boot put unnecessary stress on the SPI-NOR that the variable store lives on?
What about the alternative approach where we allow the platform code to modify the attributes of the auto created variable to disable it with hidden/!active but still match for detection purposes so that it doesn't delete and recreate the modified variable each boot? That way all the logic on what to disable can still be in the platform code and all the existing logic in the boot manager can stay basically the same?

What changes every boot that forces the variable to need to get modified?

I would assume the NOR driver is smart enough to not update a variable that is not changing.

The custom BDS could could only create the variable for this device if it does not exist.

[JB] The current flow with no changes in the boot manager would be as follows


  1.  Scan for instance of the boot option in the variables
  2.  It will not be found, so create a new boot option store it to a variable and update BootOrder
  3.  Platform code runs creates the options for the boot option it wants and writes those to variable store
  4.  Delete/disable the boot option in the variable store

When you reboot it won't find the variable so 1/2/4 will re-occur

The code that does this (1/2) is EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption in BmBoot.c

If you modify the variable to disable it with hidden/not active it would delete that and create a new one as well as the code wouldn't recognize that is the same boot option.

If however we modify EfiBootManagerFindLoadOption to not compare the attributes (at least allow for differences in active and hidden) then the when it refreshes every thing it would see the match and not delete/create a new variable in the store and thus we wouldn't have changes every boot.


Jeff,

Sorry if I'm a little off on the sequence of things as the platform I work on day to day has a custom BDS and does not use this library..... I though the patch changed BmEnumerateBootOptions(), so that is going to change how EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption() works. I'd also point out the patch as given is invalid as it changed the behavior of the public library API for EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption() [1] so for the patch to be valid it would need to change the comments to reflect the new behavior. This is kind of what Laszlo's technical debt comment was about.

I think Laszlo advocated having the BDS platform specific code make sure the boot variables are in the correct state. That should happen before the Boot Manager code runs, and it is  not clear to me why the Boot Manager could would need to run if you have a valid EFI nvram variable to boot from.

I think the question is how is your use case different than the boot variable that Windows installs? If it works kind of the same way then the answer is to have the BDS platform specific code write the boot variable.


[1]
/**
  The function creates boot options for all possible bootable medias in the following order:
  1. Removable BlockIo            - The boot option only points to the removable media
                                    device, like USB key, DVD, Floppy etc.
  2. Fixed BlockIo                - The boot option only points to a Fixed blockIo device,
                                    like HardDisk.
  3. Non-BlockIo SimpleFileSystem - The boot option points to a device supporting
                                    SimpleFileSystem Protocol, but not supporting BlockIo
                                    protocol.
  4. LoadFile                     - The boot option points to the media supporting
                                    LoadFile protocol.
  Reference: UEFI Spec chapter 3.3 Boot Option Variables Default Boot Behavior

  The function won't delete the boot option not added by itself.
**/
VOID
EFIAPI
EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption (
  VOID
  );

Thanks,

Andrew Fish




Thanks,

Andrew Fish

Thanks,

Jeff


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