From: "Brian J. Johnson" <brian.johnson@hpe.com>
To: <devel@edk2.groups.io>, <ayushdevel1325@gmail.com>,
Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] Clarification of Memory management in PEI phase
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:39:23 -0500 [thread overview]
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Sorry for the late response to this thread...
PEI has grown greatly in complexity, as Andrew pointed out. Do we
(TianoCore community) think it's time to add a real pool manager to
PEI? There's getting to be quite a bit of post-DRAM-initialization PEI
code on some platforms. And really, having a limited amount of pre-DRAM
memory available is an even better reason for having an effective pool
allocator, so the memory can be freed and reused.
FWIW we (HPE) needed to add a private pool allocator to manage memory
for a proprietary h/w initialization module which needs to run in
post-DRAM PEI, and depends on allocating and freeing memory in different
phases of its operation.
Brian J. Johnson
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*From:* Ayush Singh [mailto:ayushdevel1325@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2022, 12:22 AM
*To:* Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
*Cc:* devel@edk2.groups.io
*Subject:* [edk2-devel] Clarification of Memory management in PEI phase
> Thanks for the wonderful answer.
>
> Ayush Singh
>
> On Thu, Jun 9 2022 at 01:26:58 PM -0700, Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Ayush Singh
>> <ayushdevel1325@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, Can anyone help
>> me with understanding dynamic memory management in PEI phase? In
>> the UEFI Platform Integration Specification, version 1.7 Errata
>> A, Section 4.6, PEI Memory services are given which include: 1.
>> InstallPeiMemory()
>>
>> This is basically: (*PeiServices)->InstallPeiMemory (PeiServices,
>> MemoryBegin, MemoryLength); This is how you tell the PEI Core the
>> location of the memory that will can be used in PEI.
>>
>> 2. AllocatePages() 3. AllocatePool() 4. CopyMem() 5. SetMem() 6.
>> FreePages() However, no `FreePool()` service seems to be present.
>> So how is the memory allocated using `AllocatePool()` freed?
>>
>> It basically gets Freed when you transition to the DXE phase. To step
>> back for a minute I think it is important to remember that the main
>> job of PEI is to initialize DRAM, and deal with S3 (resuming from
>> suspend to RAM). So as soon as you have DRAM you are kind done and
>> ready for the DXE IPL so you can load the DXE Phase and start up EFI.
>> Remember PEI is Pre EFI. The reality is programming DRAM is complex
>> and lots of code got written, then lots more code got written and PEI
>> has become large for some ports. That was never the intent. PEI is
>> designed as a way to run C code when you code is running from ROM and
>> you donā��t have any DRAM. For x86 not having DRAM means you are
>> using the cache as RAM. For some SoCs there is actually an SRAM you
>> can use. Thus the PEI memory allocation scheme is designed to deal
>> with this very constrained environment. You start PEI with a heap and
>> stack. You can also allocate HOBs (Hand Off Blocks). A pool
>> allocation in PEI is just a HOB. See [1]. There is no way to free a
>> HOB. So the AllocatePool() kind of leaks into DXE too as an entry in
>> the HOB list. But when the OS called gBS->ExitBootServices() that
>> frees all non runtime memory back to the OS. If you look a
>> AllocatePages/FreePages you will see AllocatePages creates a HOB that
>> points to the memory region, and FreePages just marks that HOB as not
>> used. That code is also in this file [1]. TL;DR there is no pool
>> manager in PEI. [1]
>> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdeModulePkg/Core/Pei/Memory/MemoryServices.c#L878
>> Thanks, Andrew Fish
>>
>> Ayush Singh
>>
>
Brian
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-09 17:28 Clarification of Memory management in PEI phase Ayush Singh
2022-06-09 20:26 ` [edk2-devel] " Andrew Fish
2022-06-10 5:22 ` Ayush Singh
2022-06-22 19:39 ` Brian J. Johnson [this message]
2022-06-22 20:54 ` Andrew Fish
2022-06-22 21:41 ` Brian J. Johnson
2022-06-22 21:59 ` vincent zimmer
2022-07-01 17:00 ` FreePool in PEI (was: Clarification of Memory management in PEI phase) Brian J. Johnson
2022-06-22 22:58 ` [edk2-devel] Clarification of Memory management in PEI phase Nate DeSimone
2022-06-23 0:10 ` Michael Kubacki
2022-06-23 5:30 ` Ayush Singh
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