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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: SeaBIOS devel list <SeaBIOS@seabios.org>,
	qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	edk2-devel-ml01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>,
	Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ben Warren <ben@skyportsystems.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jordan Justen (Intel address)" <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Leif Lindholm (Linaro address)" <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	Dongjiu Geng <gengdongjiu@huawei.com>,
	Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] allocation zone extensions for the firmware linker/loader
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 19:52:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a08004a-cc4d-6144-4fc8-4b85062033e8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170605115429.29c252f6@nial.brq.redhat.com>

On 06/05/17 11:54, Igor Mammedov wrote:

> BTW:
> how OVMF would deal with booting 32-bit OS if it would allocate
> ACPI tables above 4Gb?
> For BIOS on baremetal I'd expect some switch in settings, something
> like "Disable 32-bit OS support".

In order to answer your question exhaustively, I'd have to ponder this a
lot longer. For now my basic answer is the following:

- If you can allocate memory above 4GB in the DXE phase, that means your
DXE and BDS phases are 64-bit. Which in turn implies you *cannot* boot a
32-bit OS at all.

Generally speaking, with PI / UEFI, the bitness of the firmware (the DXE
and the BDS phases) and the bitness of the OS (incl. its UEFI boot
loader) must be identical.

As a trick, Linux can work around this, in *one* direction -- 64-bit
Linux can run on 32-bit UEFI firmware (on x86; not sure about other
arches). But, the other direction (32-bit UEFI OS on 64-bit firmware)
cannot work, minimally because you can only call the UEFI runtime
services in 64-bit mode.

In short (again, this is quite rudimentary), if your memory allocation
in the DXE and/or BDS phases ends up being served from above 4GB, you
won't be booting a 32-bit-only OS.

Thanks
Laszlo


  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-06 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-02 15:45 allocation zone extensions for the firmware linker/loader Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 15:59 ` [qemu PATCH 0/7] bios-linker-loader: introduce the NOACPI hint and the 64-bit zone for ALLOCATE Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 1/7] hw/acpi/bios-linker-loader: expose allocation zone as an enum Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 2/7] hw/acpi/bios-linker-loader: introduce "no ACPI tables" content hint for ALLOC Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 3/7] hw/acpi/bios-linker-loader: introduce BIOS_LINKER_LOADER_ALLOC_ZONE_64BIT Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 4/7] hw/acpi/nvdimm: ask the firmware to allocate NVDIMM_DSM_MEM_FILE as NOACPI Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 5/7] hw/acpi/vmgenid: ask the fw to alloc VMGENID_GUID_FW_CFG_FILE " Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 6/7] hw/i386/acpi-build: ask the fw to alloc ACPI_BUILD_TPMLOG_FILE with 64bit/NOACPI Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:00   ` [qemu PATCH 7/7] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: make the fw alloc blobs with ACPI tables as 64bit Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:02 ` [seabios PATCH 0/2] romfile_loader: cope with the UEFI-oriented allocation extensions Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:02   ` [seabios PATCH 1/2] romfile_loader: alloc: cope with the UEFI-oriented NOACPI content hint Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:02   ` [seabios PATCH 2/2] romfile_loader: alloc: cope with the UEFI-oriented 64BIT zone hint Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:03 ` [edk2 PATCH 0/3] OvmfPkg/AcpiPlatformDxe: NOACPI hint and 64-bit zone in fw_cfg blob alloc Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:03   ` [edk2 PATCH 1/3] OvmfPkg/AcpiPlatformDxe: rename BLOB.HostsOnlyTableData to BLOB.Releasable Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:03   ` [edk2 PATCH 2/3] OvmfPkg/AcpiPlatformDxe: support NOACPI content hint in ALLOCATE command Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-02 16:03   ` [edk2 PATCH 3/3] OvmfPkg/AcpiPlatformDxe: support 64-bit zone " Laszlo Ersek
     [not found] ` <20170602191230-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-06-02 23:20   ` allocation zone extensions for the firmware linker/loader Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-03  7:36 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-06-05  9:54   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2017-06-06 17:52     ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
     [not found]   ` <20170605185815-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-06-06 18:10     ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]       ` <20170608204207-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-06-12 16:05         ` Paolo Bonzini

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