From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=17.151.62.66; helo=nwk-aaemail-lapp01.apple.com; envelope-from=afish@apple.com; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from nwk-aaemail-lapp01.apple.com (nwk-aaemail-lapp01.apple.com [17.151.62.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EDB02097F559 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (nwk-aaemail-lapp01.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by nwk-aaemail-lapp01.apple.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x18HqGwi044824; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:52:59 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=mime-version : content-type : sender : subject : from : in-reply-to : date : cc : content-transfer-encoding : message-id : references : to; s=20180706; bh=86QsmF59NsJ5ktQXG1B8drEbi3iVxHoTmhAmTQAwtLI=; b=cH571FMuKBa0hVRB00ylcmGxo2jLvvfNRTL9tfjdEPXJ7OM8PcJksesIe2VzBwCZUIN+ J2iE28ExjL9E3jRpDR1DVhWlBG97BSwYwB/K956foanE1YwHoT4vnc5k3kx8JbMfeCta 2LjBZp7tMaAUFQ9NH4NTKyyU2iBylW2uBf8832kPEZR4dlT0zV9+kELbPcVYjoLkVVUL BMJ3X2pKTAB+gHi1clqKhvLRubZ4NteS1Xa+9oGCWMwQTPw2Zz2fdBrZf22pWtTonXcz Ly33ViBsT5kuPmb6/7ouvHbx0fotWfGo420E7EuUjiaHFEyxuc5lIRZkFtb8qKZEkAi8 wQ== Received: from mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com (mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com [17.179.226.133]) by nwk-aaemail-lapp01.apple.com with ESMTP id 2qdb1acbny-3 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:52:59 -0800 MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com [17.171.128.150]) by mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20181024 64bit (built Oct 24 2018)) with ESMTPS id <0PMM0091HCCBHL10@mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com>; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from process_viserion-daemon.ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com by ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20181024 64bit (built Oct 24 2018)) id <0PMM00200BSWXL00@ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) X-Va-A: X-Va-T-CD: fc7e36cc71c6c555eae1328e121e7222 X-Va-E-CD: a5becc9d03344dcb30e5afeb14af4a80 X-Va-R-CD: 2043e891449b3d4a39403b40632de80a X-Va-CD: 0 X-Va-ID: d449f4fc-ea6c-455b-af93-fec11215f8ea X-V-A: X-V-T-CD: fc7e36cc71c6c555eae1328e121e7222 X-V-E-CD: a5becc9d03344dcb30e5afeb14af4a80 X-V-R-CD: 2043e891449b3d4a39403b40632de80a X-V-CD: 0 X-V-ID: 1b218b9e-5028-4bb9-be80-dc6ff35c4484 Received: from process_milters-daemon.ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com by ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20181024 64bit (built Oct 24 2018)) id <0PMM00300CB66S00@ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:52:58 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-02-08_09:,, signatures=0 Received: from [17.234.210.198] (unknown [17.234.210.198]) by ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20181024 64bit (built Oct 24 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PMM00KRWCC9DI60@ma1-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:52:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: afish@apple.com From: Andrew Fish In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:52:53 -0800 Cc: Laszlo Ersek , edk2-devel@lists.01.org Message-id: <8211BE0B-3108-47CC-AFF3-861732168F96@apple.com> References: <9313a877-0c8b-2f23-1800-f6f8e8a1d6ee@redhat.com> To: Rebecca Cran X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-08_09:, , signatures=0 Subject: Re: [edk2-announce] Community Meeting Minutes X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 17:53:01 -0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Rebecca Cran via edk2-devel = wrote: >=20 >=20 > On February 8, 2019 at 2:01:59 AM, Laszlo Ersek = (lersek@redhat.com(mailto:lersek@redhat.com)) wrote: >=20 >> I don't see the workflow modification as viable. The "patch series" >> concept is integral to every single open source project that I've = ever >> worked with. The evolution of a feature or a bug fix over a series of >> patches is a core facet of programming and reviewing. It communicates = a >> thinking process, and that's what programming is about. =20 >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t recall coming across the patch series (e.g. the 1/5 = email patches) in other projects. In other projects people post a single = patch and then update it following feedback on the same review. This can = be either in a single, rebased commit, or new commits on a bug/feature = branch - review systems deal with both. >=20 Rebecca, I think the patch workflow is kind of like a coding standards. Some = folks advocate for lots of small patches (common in open source = projects), and some folks advocate for a patch per bug. I think the = biggest upside to the patch granularity is it is much easier to bisect a = failure.=20 So I've used Bitbucket with a branch per commit (you name your branch = with a standard pattern and the bugzilla ) model and if your branch has = a patch series (set of commits) you can view each commit independently = from the UI and the default view is the entire patch series. So you can = see both.=20 Thanks, Andrew Fish >> So how long do we wait? >>=20 >=20 >=20 > Good point! =20 >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> What I find practical at this moment is what Stephano has been = working >> on (thank you for all that Stephano) -- collect & file official >> improvement requests with GitHub, and then see how those things are >> addressed. In my opinion (not having seen Gerrit anyway, which = remains >> to be evaluated, but not by me), GitHub is the direct runner up to = the >> mailing list, so improving GitHub would be the most practical. In >> particular I envision the context improvements for the GitHub email >> notifications as something very doable for GitHub. =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I=E2=80=99d certainly be happy to use Github, but I do worry about = tieing ourselves to such a closed system. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Rebecca >=20 > _______________________________________________ > edk2-devel mailing list > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel