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From: Ken Taylor <Ken_Taylor@phoenix.com>
To: "Anbazhagan, Baraneedharan" <anbazhagan@hp.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>
Subject: Re: SmmCommunicationCommunicate question?
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 23:52:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8662cfa11ebd43e08bac64be7562392e@SCL-EXCHMB-13.phoenix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AT5PR84MB0276679980605CED063E0C8EBADC0@AT5PR84MB0276.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I think there are a couple of assumptions here that should be reconsidered...

First, it is not always the case that entry into SMM on one CPU will always pull all CPUs into SMM.  There are methods to deliver targeted SMIs via the local APIC on some processors.  In addition, I have 2nd hand knowledge that some processors don't immediately return to SMM on RSM if other processors are still in SMM; this allows some processors to resume early and continue execution while execution on other cores continues in SMM.

Second, CPUs are not the only bus master capable of changing the contents of a CommBuffer that is passed to an SMI handler.  I could, for example, schedule a USB or a SATA transaction that will clobber CommBuffer contents some arbitrary amount of time after I've triggered an SMI, and CommBuffer would change on the fly even if all my processors are executing known good code in SMM.

If you want your SMI handler code to be safe, as a first step, either copy CommBuffer to a local buffer in SMM, or copy all critical parameters such as pointers, BARs, object lengths and commands to local variables. Operate only on local copies from that point forward.

 Regards,
-Ken.

-----Original Message-----
From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of Anbazhagan, Baraneedharan
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:20 AM
To: Paolo Bonzini; Laszlo Ersek
Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [edk2] SmmCommunicationCommunicate question?

> From: Paolo Bonzini [mailto:paolo.bonzini@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paolo Bonzini
> 
> On 13/10/2016 11:07, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> >
> > Instead, once the first CPU enters SMM, it brings all the other CPUs
> > into SMM as well, where they will be executing known, secure code --
> > i.e., the first CPU to enter SMM forces the other CPUs to temporarily
> > abandon any (possibly malicious) code the runtime OS may have prepared.
> > Only *then* will the verification of the communication buffer commence.
> > If the malicious code managed to race the unpriv part of the service
> > successfully, now the privileged part will catch that, undisturbed.
> 
> Even this is not strictly necessary if you can set aside some memory in SMRAM for a
> copy the communication buffer.  Then you can do:
> 
>    tmp = comm buffer size
>    if tmp > sizeof(privileged buffer)
>        return error
>    copy tmp bytes from comm buffer to privileged buffer
> 
> and not look anymore at the buffer provided by the user.
> 
> Of course, "bring all CPUs into SMM" can double as a poor man's mutex, so there
> may be reasons to do that anyway.
> 
> Paolo

Am thinking in BDS phase - if a module have periodic callback and uses SmmCommunicate within the callback, then it could potentially overwrite those gSmmCorePrivate pointer while another module trying to use SmmCommunicate.
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-13 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-13  3:40 SmmCommunicationCommunicate question? Anbazhagan, Baraneedharan
2016-10-13  9:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-10-13 12:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-13 13:20     ` Anbazhagan, Baraneedharan
2016-10-13 23:52       ` Ken Taylor [this message]
2016-10-14 12:36         ` Laszlo Ersek

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