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From: "Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, kraxel@redhat.com,
	Pawel Polawski <ppolawsk@redhat.com>,
	Dongyan Qian <qiandongyan@loongson.cn>,
	Sunil V L <sunilvl@ventanamicro.com>,
	Baoqi Zhang <zhangbaoqi@loongson.cn>,
	Chao Li <lichao@loongson.cn>, Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	Zhiguang Liu <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	Yuwei Chen <yuwei.chen@intel.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
	Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Daniel Schaefer <git@danielschaefer.me>,
	Bob Feng <bob.c.feng@intel.com>,
	Oliver Steffen <osteffen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v4 01/10] BaseTools: add BASETOOLS define
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:10:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89BA3F16-710A-407F-B81A-9F8520B87C4D@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGXZuATx3_xYJkiu51Ee=hSuHtjJRi0MPx-X=35-S=u8A@mail.gmail.com>


> On 14. Apr 2023, at 16:57, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 16:37, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 12:29:21PM +0000, Marvin Häuser wrote:
>>> Hi Gerd,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your effort!
>>> 
>>> Sorry, but I *really* dislike this “BASETOOLS” notion. There might be
>>> external tools that also want to use the header (like we do with AUDK)
>>> and also edk2 supports host-based unit tests. Imo the macro name
>>> should be generic, like “HOST_OS” or “USERLAND” or something (I’m bad
>>> with names :) ).
>> 
>> I'm certainly open to better naming ideas.
>> 
>> Underlying problem is that x64 ProcessorBind.h sets visibility to
>> hidden (anyone knows why?).
> 
> Yes. Toolchains tend to assume that you are generating code for a
> shared library once you enabled -fpic, and this results in lots of
> pointless indirections via the GOT.

Unless Safari search is borked (this indeed sometimes happens, I swear :-) ), -fpic is never passed, only -fpie. Should be mostly preemption, I guess.

> (This has to do with the
> copy-on-write footprint of shared library pages, as a GOT tends to
> gather all relocated quantities in a small region of memory. It is
> also related to ELF symbol preemption, which is another thing we don't
> give a ^$& about).
> 
> *However*, recent linkers do a better job getting rid of these GOT
> references at link time, once you pass the --relax option. On X64 in
> particular, there are special, relaxable GOTPCREL relocations now that
> will not result in to symbol references via the GOT if the linker
> notices that the symbol in question is never preempted and not
> provided externally.
> 
> So it is worth an experiment whether we still need this to begin with.
> 
>> Seems to be fine for freestanding binaries,
>> but when linking host tools against shared libraries things break.  For
>> some reason on ubuntu only, fedora works fine (both gcc and clang).
>> 
>> Automatically detecting freestanding vs. hosted would be even better,
>> anyone knows whenever there is a define which can be used for this?  At
>> least the gcc man page doesn't mention any ...
>> 
> 
> ard@gambale:~/linux-build-x86$ gcc -dM -E -o - -xc - <<< ""|grep HOSTED
> #define __STDC_HOSTED__ 1
> ard@gambale:~/linux-build-x86$ gcc -ffreestanding -dM -E -o - -xc -
> <<< ""|grep HOSTED
> #define __STDC_HOSTED__ 0

You are godsend. :)

Best regards,
Marvin

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-14 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-14  8:02 [PATCH v4 00/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] BaseTools: add BASETOOLS define Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 12:29   ` Marvin Häuser
2023-04-14 14:37     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 14:51       ` Marvin Häuser
2023-04-14 14:57       ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-14 15:10         ` Marvin Häuser [this message]
2023-04-18 11:52         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-18 11:59           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-18 13:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-18 13:41               ` Marvin Häuser
2023-04-18 15:50               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-21  3:26                 ` 回复: " gaoliming
2023-05-22 12:27         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-22 12:55           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-22 13:38             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-22 14:31               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-23  7:07                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-23  8:49                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-23  8:54                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] MdePkg: don't set visibility to hidden for BaseTools Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] BaseTools: remove WinNtInclude.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: <arch>/ProcessorBind.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: IndustryStandard/Acpi*.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] MdePkg/PeImage.h: add bits from BaseTools version Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] BaseTools: drop IMAGE_FILE_MACHINE_ARM hacks Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] BaseTools: switch from EFI_IMAGE_MACHINE_* to IMAGE_FILE_MACHINE_* Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 12:16   ` [edk2-devel] " Rebecca Cran
2023-04-14 14:39     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: IndustryStandard/PeImage.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14  8:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes: IndustryStandard/*.h Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-14 12:18 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v4 00/10] BaseTools: remove duplicate includes Rebecca Cran

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