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From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: "Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 24/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Rework memory detection
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:45:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b9cb231-e9e5-8f92-f8d4-a6f05efaa888@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190722145319.GG1208@perard.uk.xensource.com>

On 07/22/19 16:53, Anthony PERARD wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 03:42:22PM +0100, Anthony PERARD wrote:
>>> When running as a Xen PVH guest, there is no CMOS to read the memory
>>> size from.  Rework GetSystemMemorySize(Below|Above)4gb() so they can
>>> works without CMOS by reading the e820 table.
>>>
>>> Rework XenPublishRamRegions for PVH, handle the Reserve type and explain
>>> about the ACPI type. MTRR settings aren't modified anymore, on HVM, it's
>>> already done by hvmloader, on PVH it is supposed to have sane default.
>>>
>>> Ref: https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689
>>> Signed-off-by: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>
>>> Acked-by: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>>     Comment for Xen people:
>>>     About MTRR, should we redo the setting in OVMF? Even if in both case of
>>>     PVH and HVM, something would have setup the default type to write back
>>>     and handle a few other ranges like PCI hole, hvmloader for HVM or and
>>>     libxc I think for PVH.
>>
>> That's a tricky question. Ideally we would like the firmware (OVMF) to
>> take care of that, because it already has code to do so. Problem here
>> is that PVH can also be booted without firmware, in which case it
>> needs the hypervisor to have setup some sane initial MTRR state.
>>
>> The statement in the PVH document about initial MTRR state is vague
>> enough that allows Xen to boot into the guest with a minimal MTRR
>> state, that can for example not contain UC regions for the MMIO
>> regions of passed through devices, hence I think OVMF should be in
>> charge of creating a more complete MTRR state if possible.
>>
>> Is this something OVMF already has logic for?
> 
> Well, there are some logic but it's for QEMU (and uses an interface that
> isn't available when running on Xen, fwcfg).
> 
> The logic that was there for Xen HVM was very simple, a single set
> cache-write-back for the RAM, that's why I remove it (and because I'm
> not sure yet I figured out how to run the mtrr functions correctly in
> OVMF).
> 
> I probably going to have to write a new logic which would rewrite the
> MTRR from scratch instead of relying on the existing setup.

MTRR setup is complex in OVMF, in comparison to firmware that runs on
physical machines, because:

- the physical RAM size can change from boot to boot, with almost total
freedom, and that can incur some unexpected changes in the physical RAM
map too (i.e. affect not just the end, but holes)

- the number of variable MTRRs is severely limited and can't cover an
arbitrary physical RAM map. And, some platform-independent modules in
edk2 consume variable MTRRs too, via gDS->SetMemorySpaceAttributes(), so
we have to be very conservative with even those variable MTRRs that exist.

Even on QEMU i440fx & pc, we've *just* made OVMF cope with an arbitrary
guest RAM size (that is, beyond 128MB), and that logic relies on some
open-coded board-specific knowledge about low (<4G) RAM size. So much so
that, on i440fx, we place the 32-bit PCI IOMMU aperture based on what we
can configure with a minimal amount of variable MTRRs, and not vice
versa (i.e. we don't first set the 32-bit MMIO aperture and then attempt
to mark it as uncached). Please see:

  https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1814

This is one of the nastiest parts of OVMF. (PlatformPei is, in general.)

Thanks
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-22 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-04 14:41 [PATCH v3 00/35] Specific platform to run OVMF in Xen PVH and HVM guests Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 01/35] OvmfPkg/ResetSystemLib: Add missing dependency on PciLib Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/35] OvmfPkg: Create platform OvmfXen Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 13:29   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/35] OvmfPkg: Introduce XenResetVector Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/35] OvmfPkg: Introduce XenPlatformPei Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 13:53   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/35] OvmfPkg/OvmfXen: Creating an ELF header Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 14:09   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/35] OvmfPkg/XenResetVector: Add new entry point for Xen PVH Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 13:57   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-19 10:20     ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-19 14:33       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 14:41         ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-19 15:51           ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 14:14   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-15 11:46   ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-15 11:50     ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-15 14:25       ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-19 14:00     ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/35] OvmfPkg/XenResetVector: Saving start of day pointer for PVH guests Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 14:24   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/35] OvmfPkg/XenResetVector: Allow jumpstart from either hvmloader or PVH Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 14:54   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/35] OvmfPkg/OvmfXen: use a TimerLib instance that depends only on the CPU Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 15:01   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-15 14:22   ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-22 13:49     ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-22 19:28       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-23  9:02         ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Detect OVMF_INFO from hvmloader Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Use mXenHvmloaderInfo to get E820 Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 12/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Grab RSDP from PVH guest start of day struct Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 13/35] OvmfPkg/Library/XenPlatformLib: New library Anthony PERARD
2019-07-08 14:34   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 14/35] OvmfPkg/AcpiPlatformDxe: Use XenPlatformLib Anthony PERARD
2019-07-08 14:38   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-10  9:42     ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 15/35] OvmfPkg/AcpiPlatformDxe: Use Xen PVH RSDP if it exist Anthony PERARD
2019-07-08 14:42   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 16/35] OvmfPkg/XenHypercallLib: Enable it in PEIM Anthony PERARD
2019-07-08 14:51   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 17/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Reinit XenHypercallLib Anthony PERARD
2019-07-08 15:07   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 18/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Introduce XenHvmloaderDetected Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 19/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Reserve hvmloader's memory only when it has run Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 20/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Setup HyperPages earlier Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 21/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Introduce XenPvhDetected Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 22/35] OvmfPkg: Import XENMEM_memory_map hypercall to Xen/memory.h Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 23/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: no hvmloader: get the E820 table via hypercall Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 24/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Rework memory detection Anthony PERARD
2019-07-15 14:15   ` roger.pau
2019-07-22 14:53     ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-22 19:45       ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-07-22 23:08         ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-23  9:42       ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-23 16:06         ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-24 16:17         ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-25  9:08           ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-25 10:05             ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-25 11:03               ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 25/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Reserve VGA memory region, to boot Linux Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 26/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformPei: Ignore missing PCI Host Bridge on Xen PVH Anthony PERARD
2019-07-08 15:31   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 27/35] OvmfPkg/XenPlatformLib: Cache result for XenDetected Anthony PERARD
2019-07-10  9:31   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 28/35] OvmfPkg/PlatformBootManagerLib: Use XenDetected from XenPlatformLib Anthony PERARD
2019-07-10  9:45   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 29/35] OvmfPkg/PlatformBootManagerLib: Handle the absence of PCI bus on Xen PVH Anthony PERARD
2019-07-10  9:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 30/35] OvmfPkg/OvmfXen: Override PcdFSBClock to Xen vLAPIC timer frequency Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 31/35] OvmfPkg/OvmfXen: Introduce XenTimerDxe Anthony PERARD
2019-07-10 10:12   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 32/35] OvmfPkg/PlatformBootManagerLib: Use a Xen console for ConOut/ConIn Anthony PERARD
2019-07-10 10:48   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-22 17:06     ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-23  7:31       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 33/35] OvmfPkg: Introduce XenIoPvhDxe to initialize Grant Tables Anthony PERARD
2019-07-10 14:05   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-26 16:06     ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-26 17:19       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 34/35] OvmfPkg: Move XenRealTimeClockLib from ArmVirtPkg Anthony PERARD
2019-07-04 14:42 ` [PATCH v3 35/35] OvmfPkg/OvmfXen: use RealTimeClockRuntimeDxe from EmbeddedPkg Anthony PERARD
2019-07-05 12:21 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 00/35] Specific platform to run OVMF in Xen PVH and HVM guests Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 16:42   ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-22 19:09     ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-23 11:37       ` Anthony PERARD
2019-07-30  9:03         ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-05 15:06 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-10 14:12 ` Laszlo Ersek

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