From: "Zeng, Star" <star.zeng@intel.com>
To: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>, star.zeng@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: Use common buffer for AsyncInterruptTransfer
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:12:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <90e7a9d5-0ece-a12c-0730-e67b6dbf6505@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181031120816.jmzeo67l2ij7da23@bivouac.eciton.net>
On 2018/10/31 20:08, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:38:43PM +0800, Zeng, Star wrote:
>> Good feedback.
>>
>> On 2018/10/30 20:50, Leif Lindholm wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:39:24AM -0300, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>> (add back the list)
>>>
>>> Oi! Go back on holiday!
>>>
>>>> On 30 October 2018 at 09:07, Cohen, Eugene <eugene@hp.com> wrote:
>>>>> Has this patch been tested on a system that does not have coherent DMA?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not clear that this change would actually be faster on a system of that
>>>>> type since using common buffers imply access to uncached memory. Depending
>>>>> on the access patterns the uncached memory access could be more time
>>>>> consuming than cache maintenance operations.
>>
>> The change/idea was based on the statement below.
>> ///
>> /// Provides both read and write access to system memory by both the
>> processor and a
>> /// bus master. The buffer is coherent from both the processor's and the
>> bus master's point of view.
>> ///
>> EfiPciIoOperationBusMasterCommonBuffer,
>>
>> Thanks for raising case about uncached memory access. But after checking the
>> code, for Intel VTd case https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/IntelSiliconPkg/Feature/VTd/IntelVTdDxe/BmDma.c#L460
>> (or no IOMMU case https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/PciHostBridgeDxe/PciRootBridgeIo.c#L1567),
>> the common buffer is just normal memory buffer.
>> If someone can help do some test/collect some data on a system using common
>> buffers imply access to uncached memory, that will be great.
>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had time to look at these patches yet.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Eugene's concern: the directional DMA routines are much
>>>> more performant on implementations with non-coherent DMA, and so
>>>> common buffers should be avoided unless we are dealing with data
>>>> structures that are truly shared between the CPU and the device.
>>>>
>>>> Since this is obviously not the case here, could we please have some
>>>> numbers about the performance improvement we are talking about here?
>>>> Would it be possible to improve the IOMMU handling code instead?
>>
>> We collected the data below on a platform with release image and Intel VTd
>> enabled.
>>
>> The image size of EhciDxe or XhciDxe can reduce about 120+ bytes.
>>
>> EHCI without the patch:
>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>> (Times in microsec.) Cumulative Average Shortest Longest
>> Name Count Duration Duration Duration Duration
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> S0000B00D1DF0 446 2150 4 2 963
>>
>> EHCI with the patch:
>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>> (Times in microsec.) Cumulative Average Shortest Longest
>> Name Count Duration Duration Duration Duration
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> S0000B00D1DF0 270 742 2 2 41
>>
>> XHCI without the patch:
>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>> (Times in microsec.) Cumulative Average Shortest Longest
>> Name Count Duration Duration Duration Duration
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> S0000B00D14F0 215 603 2 2 52
>>
>> XHCI with the patch:
>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>> (Times in microsec.) Cumulative Average Shortest Longest
>> Name Count Duration Duration Duration Duration
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> S0000B00D14F0 95 294 3 2 52
>>
>> I believe the performance data really depends on
>> 1. How many AsyncInterruptTransfer handlers (the number of USB keyboard
>> and/or USB bluetooth keyboard?)
>> 2. Data size (for flushing data from PCI controller specific address to
>> mapped system memory address *in original code*)
>> 3. The performance of IoMmu->SetAttribute (for example, the SetAttribute
>> operation on Intel VTd engine caused by the unmap and map for flushing data
>> *in original code*, the SetAttribute operation on IntelVTd engine will
>> involve FlushPageTableMemory, InvalidatePageEntry and etc)
>>
>>> On an unrelated note to the concerns above:
>>> Why has a fundamental change to the behaviour of one of the industry
>>> standard drivers been pushed at the very end of the stable cycle?
>>
>> We thought it was a simple improvement but not fundamental change before
>> Eugene and Ard raised the concern.
>
> Understood.
Thanks. :)
>
> However, as it is changing the memory management behaviour of a core
> driver, I think it automatically qualifies as something that should
> only go in the week after a stable tag.
>
> We will need to have a closer look at the non-coherent case when Ard
> gets back (Monday).
You mean Ard is on vacation and will be back next Monday.
>
> If this version causes issues with non-coherent systems, we will need
> to revert it before the stable tag. We would then need to look into
> the best way to deal with the performance issues quoted above.
I am glad to revert it if it has side effect. Is it possible someone
could have a quick check?
Thanks,
Star
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Leif
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-01 1:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-26 13:41 [PATCH V3 0/4] Remove unnecessary Map/Unmap in XhciDxe/EhciDxe for AsyncInterruptTransfer Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 1/4] MdeModulePkg XhciDxe: Extract new XhciInsertAsyncIntTransfer function Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 2/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: Extract new EhciInsertAsyncIntTransfer function Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 3/4] MdeModulePkg XhciDxe: Use common buffer for AsyncInterruptTransfer Star Zeng
2018-10-27 7:47 ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 4/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: " Star Zeng
[not found] ` <CS1PR8401MB1189428C2915107C583C0A42B4CC0@CS1PR8401MB1189.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2018-10-30 12:39 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-30 12:50 ` Leif Lindholm
2018-10-31 4:38 ` Zeng, Star
2018-10-31 12:08 ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-01 1:12 ` Zeng, Star [this message]
2018-11-01 10:32 ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-06 9:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-06 14:37 ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-07 15:00 ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-07 15:14 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-28 13:35 ` [PATCH V3 0/4] Remove unnecessary Map/Unmap in XhciDxe/EhciDxe " Zeng, Star
2018-10-29 2:19 ` Ni, Ruiyu
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