From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
devel@edk2.groups.io, thomas.lendacky@amd.com
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
Liming Gao <liming.gao@intel.com>,
Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com>, Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>,
"Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
"Fang, Peter" <peter.fang@intel.com>,
D Scott Phillips <d.scott.phillips@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH 01/28] OvmfPkg/Sec: Enable cache early to speed up booting
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:46:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9659350e-fb81-fa3a-d86a-5a76d73c3ce1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <156642425970.26211.8321620974236559246@jljusten-skl>
On 08/21/19 23:51, Jordan Justen wrote:
> On 2019-08-21 07:21:25, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 08/19/19 23:35, Lendacky, Thomas wrote:
>>> From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
>>>
>>> Currently, the OVMF code relies on the hypervisor to enable the cache
>>> support on the processor in order to improve the boot speed. However,
>>> with SEV-ES, the hypervisor is not allowed to change the CR0 register
>>> to enable caching.
>>>
>>> Update the OVMF Sec support to enable caching in order to improve the
>>> boot speed.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
>>> ---
>>> OvmfPkg/Sec/SecMain.c | 5 +++++
>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/OvmfPkg/Sec/SecMain.c b/OvmfPkg/Sec/SecMain.c
>>> index 3914355cd17b..2448be0cd408 100644
>>> --- a/OvmfPkg/Sec/SecMain.c
>>> +++ b/OvmfPkg/Sec/SecMain.c
>>> @@ -739,6 +739,11 @@ SecCoreStartupWithStack (
>>>
>>> ProcessLibraryConstructorList (NULL, NULL);
>>>
>>> + //
>>> + // Enable caching
>>> + //
>>> + AsmEnableCache ();
>>> +
>>> DEBUG ((EFI_D_INFO,
>>> "SecCoreStartupWithStack(0x%x, 0x%x)\n",
>>> (UINT32)(UINTN)BootFv,
>>>
>>
>> This makes me uncomfortable. There used to be problems related to
>> caching when VFIO device assignment were used. My concern is admittedly
>> vague, but this is a very brittle area of OVMF-on-KVM. If you asked me
>> "well what could break here", I'd answer "you never know, and the burden
>> of proof is not on me". :) Can we make this change conditional on SEV-ES?
>
> This was also raised as an issue by Peter for the ACRN hypervisor and
> Scott for the bhyve hypervisor.
>
> I think it is rare for a platform to enable cache at this early of a
> stage, but it is also rare to decompress a firmware volume at this
> point.
>
> It appears that it could be helpful to figure out how to safely enable
> cache by default here, since it does seem to be impacting several
> hypervisors.
I can't think of anything better than "trial and error". The issues that
used to pop up in the past, due to host kernel (KVM) changes,
particularly in connection with VFIO device assignment, have been
completely obscure and unpenetrable to me. Even though I've contributed
at least one KVM patch to mitigate those problems, they remain a mistery
to me, and I remain unable to *reason* about the problems or the fixes.
So I think we could only flip the behavior (enable cache by default) and
collect bug reports. But that's extremely annoying for end-users, and I
see "no regressions" as one of my top responsibilities.
Even if we provided an fw_cfg knob to disable the change, using
QemuFwCfgSecLib, similarly to commit ab081a50e565 ("OvmfPkg:
PlatformPei: take no-exec DXE settings from the QEMU command line",
2015-09-15), such fw_cfg knobs are difficult to use through layered
products, such as libvirt, proxmox, etc. And of course fw_cfg is only
available on QEMU.
Laszlo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-22 13:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-19 21:35 [RFC PATCH 00/28] SEV-ES guest support thomas.lendacky
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 01/28] OvmfPkg/Sec: Enable cache early to speed up booting Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-21 14:21 ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-21 21:25 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-21 21:51 ` Jordan Justen
2019-08-22 13:46 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-08-22 20:44 ` Jordan Justen
2019-08-23 13:32 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 02/28] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: Add support for a 32-bit SEV check Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 03/28] OvmfPkg/MemEncryptSevLib: Add an SEV-ES guest indicator function Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 04/28] OvmfPkg: Create a GHCB page for use during Sec phase Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-21 14:25 ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-21 21:29 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 05/28] OvmfPkg: Create GHCB pages for use during Pei and Dxe phase Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-21 14:31 ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-21 21:42 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-22 14:12 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-22 15:24 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-23 13:26 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 06/28] OvmfPkg: A per-CPU variable area for #VC usage Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 07/28] OvmfPkg/PlatformPei: Move early GDT into ram when SEV-ES is enabled Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-21 15:44 ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 08/28] MdePkg/BaseLib: Implement the VMGEXIT support Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:47 ` Ni, Ray
2019-08-19 22:25 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 09/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add base support for the #VC exception Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 10/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add base #VC exception handling support for Sec phase Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 11/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for IOIO_PROT NAE events Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 12/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Support string IO " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 13/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for CPUID " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 14/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for MSR_PROT " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 15/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for NPF NAE events (MMIO) Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 16/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for WBINVD NAE events Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 17/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for RDTSC " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 18/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for RDPMC " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 19/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for INVD " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 20/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for VMMCALL " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 21/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for RDTSCP " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 22/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for MONITOR/MONITORX " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 23/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for MWAIT/MWAITX " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 24/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add support for DR7 Read/Write " Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 25/28] UefiCpuPkg/CpuExceptionHandler: Add base #VC exception handling support for Pei/Dxe phases Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 26/28] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Update CPU MP data with a flag to indicate if SEV-ES is active Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 27/28] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Allow AP booting under SEV-ES Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-19 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 28/28] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Introduce an MP finalization routine to support SEV-ES Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-21 14:17 ` [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/28] SEV-ES guest support Laszlo Ersek
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