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From: "Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>,
	"Schaefer, Daniel (DualStudy)" <daniel.schaefer@hpe.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)" <abner.chang@hpe.com>,
	"Chen, Gilbert" <gilbert.chen@hpe.com>,
	Mike Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"pete@akeo.ie" <pete@akeo.ie>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] MdeModulePkg: Use CopyMem instead of GUID assignment
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 12:51:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AC7B6999-3309-480C-ACBB-A4AC115D3DEB@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae3fccfa-6204-9f99-6831-3abdbe39969a@redhat.com>



> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 03/12/20 15:03, Leif Lindholm wrote:
>> +Ard, Laszlo.
>> 
>> I think it would make sense to move it to MdeModulePkg (or MdePkg) and
>> rename it BaseCompilerIntrinsicsLib (it *is* a BASE library).
>> 
>> As I alluded in my reply to Ray - x86 also have this problem, but to a
>> lesser extent, and ended up creating library functions to call instead
>> of using plain C for certain operations.
>> Which was probably the right decision when it was restricted to a
>> very few corner cases.
> 
> I think people that are interested in IA32/X64 are happier with explicit
> CopyMem() calls that are optimized (via one of the several BaseMemoryLib
> instances, such as SSE2, REP + string instructions, MMX, "smart"
> (chunked) C code, etc), than with a naive loop, such as the one in
> "ArmPkg/Library/CompilerIntrinsicsLib/memcpy.c", that gets silently
> plugged into an intrinsic (such as a structure assignment).
> 
> I mean, compiler intrinsics exist in the first place because they
> implement language features in a fast / performant manner, behind the
> scenes. If we replace the internals of an intrinsic with a slow / naive
> implementation, then the intrinsic has no more right to exist, the
> compiler could / should just generate the normal naive code.
> 
> I don't mind the code movement, but I'd like to avoid using
> BaseCompilerIntrinsicsLib on IA32/X64. On those arches, I think it would
> only be an improvement if it had a configurable backend, similarly how
> CopyMem() is currently configurable.
> 
> ... I guess I've gotten very used to calling CopyMem(), in place of
> structure assignment.
> 

Laszlo,

My brain has flipped too. 

For x86 I find smaller structure assignments can cause the optimizer to optimize away the memcpy/memset and you only see issue issues on a NOOPT build since DEBUG builds tend to be size optimized. I tend to hit  this issue when I try to turn off optimizations to try and walk vendor code in the debugger. So code review is the 1st line of defense. 

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-12 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-02 10:32 [PATCH v2 0/3] Allow building MdeModulePkg on non-x86 Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] MdeModulePkg: Restrict libraries using SMM to x86 Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 13:18   ` [edk2-devel] " Liming Gao
2020-03-02 17:38     ` Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] MdeModulePkg: Set PcdDxeIplSwitchToLongMode false on non-x86 Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 13:19   ` Liming Gao
2020-03-02 17:36     ` Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] MdeModulePkg: Use CopyMem instead of GUID assignment Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 13:38   ` [edk2-devel] " Liming Gao
2020-03-05  0:39   ` Dandan Bi
2020-03-12  5:58     ` [edk2-devel] " Wang, Jian J
2020-03-12  6:00       ` Abner Chang
2020-03-12 10:55   ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-12 12:21     ` Ni, Ray
2020-03-12 13:53       ` [EXTERNAL] " Leif Lindholm
2020-03-20  7:24         ` Ni, Ray
2020-03-12 13:24     ` Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-12 14:03       ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-12 14:33         ` Abner Chang
2020-03-12 14:44           ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-12 14:57             ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-13  3:57               ` Abner Chang
2020-03-12 19:42             ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-03-12 21:19               ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-13  4:08                 ` Abner Chang
2020-03-13 10:10                   ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-15 14:59                     ` Abner Chang
2020-03-13 16:36                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-03-12 19:36         ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-03-12 19:51           ` Andrew Fish [this message]
2020-03-12 21:04           ` Leif Lindholm

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