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From: "Guo Dong" <guo.dong@intel.com>
To: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>,
	edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>
Cc: "lersek@redhat.com" <lersek@redhat.com>,
	"Liu, Zhiguang" <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	"Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Hao A" <hao.a.wu@intel.com>,
	"Bi, Dandan" <dandan.bi@intel.com>,
	Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [Patch V2 0/2] Let AcpiTableDxe driver install Acpi table from Hob
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:29:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BYAPR11MB36228ADDF9BA93B7ED9F5EFF9E649@BYAPR11MB3622.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41831DD2-0EBC-4B29-B6A0-BE56F322F478@apple.com>

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The universal payload specification<https://universalpayload.github.io/documentation/spec/spec.html> proposes to re-use the existing GUID from UEFI for the HOB.
I don't know if we have to update the UEFI spec firstly in order to reuse the GUID.
Any idea?

Thanks,
Guo

From: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:13 AM
To: edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>; Dong, Guo <guo.dong@intel.com>
Cc: lersek@redhat.com; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Bi, Dandan <dandan.bi@intel.com>; Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [Patch V2 0/2] Let AcpiTableDxe driver install Acpi table from Hob

My concern is gEfiAcpiTableGuid is owned by the UEFI Spec and any off label usage should probably be defined by the PI Spec.

Is this a code 1st proposal or just an implementation?

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


On Mar 23, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Guo Dong <guo.dong@intel.com<mailto:guo.dong@intel.com>> wrote:


Add my comments on the ideas behind.
UefiPayloadPkg is not a platform specific package, it tries to provide a generic payload using platform independent Modules. This allows to reuse the payload for different boot firmware solutions (Slim Bootloader, Coreboot, EDK2 bootloader) on different platforms.

Just like other DXE modules (e.g. variable DXE driver,  firmware performance DXE driver), standardizing and modularizing platform independent modules through a HOB as the AcpiTableDxe patch did to support potential data from PEI/bootloader is a nature way for EDKII modules reuse. Understood the concerns to keep AcpiTableDxe as simple as possible. I think it deserve for code reuse by adding PEI/bootloader HOB support.

Thanks,
Guo


-----Original Message-----
From: devel@edk2.groups.io<mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io> <devel@edk2.groups.io<mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Laszlo
Ersek
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 5:40 AM
To: Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com<mailto:zhiguang.liu@intel.com>>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com<mailto:ray.ni@intel.com>>; Dong,
Guo <guo.dong@intel.com<mailto:guo.dong@intel.com>>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io<mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com<mailto:jian.j.wang@intel.com>>; Wu, Hao A
<hao.a.wu@intel.com<mailto:hao.a.wu@intel.com>>; Bi, Dandan <dandan.bi@intel.com<mailto:dandan.bi@intel.com>>; Liming Gao
<gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn<mailto:gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [Patch V2 0/2] Let AcpiTableDxe driver install Acpi
table from Hob

On 03/23/21 04:24, Zhiguang Liu wrote:

If HOB contains APCI table information, entry point of AcpiTableDxe.inf
should parse the APCI table from HOB, and install these tables.
We assume the whole ACPI table (starting with
EFI_ACPI_2_0_ROOT_SYSTEM_DESCRIPTION_POINTER)

is contained by a single gEfiAcpiTableGuid HOB.
This way, for UefiPayloadPkg, there is no need to specially hanle acpi table.

Zhiguang Liu (2):
 MdeModulePkg/ACPI: Install ACPI table from HOB.
 UefiPayloadPkg: Remove code that installs APCI

MdeModulePkg/Universal/Acpi/AcpiTableDxe/AcpiTableDxe.inf    |   3 ++-
MdeModulePkg/Universal/Acpi/AcpiTableDxe/AcpiTableProtocol.c | 134
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
----

UefiPayloadPkg/BlSupportDxe/BlSupportDxe.c                   |  13 ++-----------
UefiPayloadPkg/BlSupportDxe/BlSupportDxe.h                   |   5 +----
UefiPayloadPkg/BlSupportDxe/BlSupportDxe.inf                 |   5 ++---
5 files changed, 133 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-)

Where does this idea come from?

(1) There is no bugzilla for this, apparently (not linked in the commit
messages anyway).

(2) Also, I'm not sure if reusing an existing (and standardized) GUID
for this purpose is a good idea. I think an edk2-only
(MdeModulePkg-defined), brand new GUID, for the HOB, would be better.

(3) I'm also not convinced at all that this *whole approach* is sound.

The fact that UefiPayloadPkg has the ACPI content available to it in a
particular data representation (as a HOB, for example) is just a
platform trait. Why should that platform trait leak into the central
implementation of the ACPI table protocol?

UefiPayloadPkg can call the ACPI table protocol interfaces to install
its tables. OVMF does the same -- OVMF also does not construct its own
ACPI tables, but downloads them in a quirky representation from QEMU. We
didn't hack the central AcpiTableDxe driver for that use case; instead,
we dissected the blob (in OvmfPkg) into individual tables, and called
the proper ACPI table protocol method (InstallAcpiTable()) with the
individual tables.

I disagree with the code complexity / platform quirk in AcpiTableDxe. At
the bare minimum, this feature should be possible to compile out
altogether. I don't necessarily mean a FeaturePCD; there could be a new
INF file too, that shares most of the functionality with the current
core driver, but also includes (from a different source file) the new logic.

But I'd really like if this mess were kept out of MdeModulePkg
altogether. It's the job of the platform ACPI driver to use the ACPI
table protocol.

Of course if you can show that this HOB usage is standard / publicly
specified, that's different.

Please do not merge this series.

Laszlo










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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-23  3:24 [Patch V2 1/2] MdeModulePkg/ACPI: Install ACPI table from HOB Zhiguang Liu
2021-03-23  3:24 ` [Patch V2 2/2] UefiPayloadPkg: Remove code that installs APCI Zhiguang Liu
2021-03-23  3:44   ` Ni, Ray
2021-03-23  5:19   ` Guo Dong
2021-03-23  3:24 ` [Patch V2 0/2] Let AcpiTableDxe driver install Acpi table from Hob Zhiguang Liu
2021-03-23 12:40   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-23 15:45     ` Guo Dong
2021-03-23 16:12       ` Andrew Fish
2021-03-23 17:29         ` Guo Dong [this message]
2021-03-24  5:30         ` Ni, Ray
2021-03-23 16:48       ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-23 17:15         ` Guo Dong
2021-03-24  9:50           ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-24  4:09         ` Ni, Ray
2021-03-24 10:29           ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-23 23:52     ` Benjamin Doron
2021-03-24  9:53       ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-24 16:55         ` Benjamin Doron
2021-03-24 18:33           ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-25  1:10             ` Ni, Ray
2021-03-25  3:55               ` Andrew Fish
2021-03-25 17:35                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-25 17:33               ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-03-25  1:39             ` Benjamin Doron
2021-03-23  3:44 ` [Patch V2 1/2] MdeModulePkg/ACPI: Install ACPI table from HOB Ni, Ray

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