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From: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
To: Christopher.Co@microsoft.com
Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	edk2-devel@lists.01.org,
	 Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	tee-dev@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms 01/27] Platform/Microsoft: Add OpteeClientPkg dec
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 15:37:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFA6WYNYQ0NyHgxwovJw46FPHkn7tR7o9ikfoxxA3URRHz2caw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR2101MB1128456A9719981CC38BD79594CF0@DM5PR2101MB1128.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Chris,

On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 05:25, Chris Co <Christopher.Co@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sumit,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:24 PM
> > To: Chris Co <Christopher.Co@microsoft.com>
> > Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Ard
> > Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>; Michael D Kinney
> > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; tee-dev@lists.linaro.org
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms 01/27] Platform/Microsoft: Add
> > OpteeClientPkg dec
> >
> > + OP-TEE ML.
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 06:11, Chris Co <Christopher.Co@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sumit,
> > >
> > > Our full OpteeClientPkg has:
> > > - Our OpteeClientAPI implementation. I was monitoring the merge progress
> > on OpteeLib and will look into moving over now that it is available.
> > > - The fTPM and AuthVar TA binaries. In our current design, the TA binaries
> > are loaded at runtime. We could host the binaries themselves elsewhere on
> > the filesystem, but we do not want these binaries as early/pseudo TAs. Is
> > there a plan for OpteeLib to support loading full TAs?
> >
> > Early TAs [1] are basically full TAs only, running in Secure EL0 mode.
> > So instead of loading TA from normal world file-system, they are linked into a
> > special data section in the OP-TEE core blob.
> >
> > Also I don't think loading TAs dynamically especially during boot makes much
> > sense due to following reasons:
> > 1. Increased boot time.
> > 2. Fixed TAs like in your case which could be linked as early TAs as well.
> >
>
> We prefer to load TAs dynamically for a more flexible servicing story. My understanding is that Early TAs are coupled with the OP-TEE binary itself, so to update an Early TA, a new OP-TEE binary would need to be created and pushed. We want to avoid rolling a new OP-TEE and only update the TA binary in this scenario.
>

Are you referring to run-time updates on the device in the field? If
this is the case then how do you think to update TAs, is it via some
custom capsule update method?

I do consider these TAs used during boot as essential secure services
provided by the secure firmware (OP-TEE in this case). So these TAs
should be part of firmware itself and updates for them should come
through firmware capsule updates only.

> > And you mentioned filesystem, are you referring to root filesystem?
> >
>
> We have not implemented this yet, but we were thinking to have the TA binaries present in the EFI partition.
>

AFAIK, EFI partition is shared among Linux and UEFI. This provides
Linux access to secure firmware TAs that could be a security concern
(denial of service could be one of them).

> > > - We have two client drivers: a firmware TPM TA driver and an
> > authenticated variable TA driver. These talk through the tee-supplicant to
> > their respective TAs.
> > >
> >
> > Here from tee-supplicant apart from loading TAs, what other services are you
> > expecting? If you are looking for secure storage via RPMB, that could be an
> > enhancement to OpteeLib adding corresponding RPC handling here [2].
> >
>
> For RPC handling, we are looking for the following callback support:
> - OPTEE_SMC_RPC_FUNC_ALLOC
> - OPTEE_SMC_RPC_FUNC_FREE
> - OPTEE_SMC_RPC_FUNC_CMD
>         - OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_LOAD_TA

Please see above comments for this.

>         - OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_RPMB
>         - OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_GET_TIME

Can you share the usage of OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_GET_TIME? AFAIK, this is
used to get REE time from OP-TEE.

>         - OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_SHM_ALLOC
>         - OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_SHM_FREE
>         - OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_WAIT_QUEUE

I don't think we need OPTEE_MSG_RPC_CMD_WAIT_QUEUE implementation in
UEFI as its a single threaded execution flow on boot core.

BTW, I am not sure if I could get time to work on RPC handling anytime
soon. So patches are welcome and I am happy to review them.

Regards,
Sumit

>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> > [1]
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > om%2FOP-
> > TEE%2Foptee_os%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fdocumentation%2Foptee_design.md
> > %23early-trusted-
> > applications&amp;data=02%7C01%7CChristopher.Co%40microsoft.com%7C4a
> > 7d8c01e4804365f4eb08d640837a15%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%
> > 7C1%7C0%7C636767330779998429&amp;sdata=yaDWw5Z6yuux1o89kxzbknVp
> > b%2B1OHUagbB%2FOGS4dAcU%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > [2]
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > om%2Ftianocore%2Fedk2%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2FArmPkg%2FLibrary%2FOpteeL
> > ib%2FOptee.c%23L147&amp;data=02%7C01%7CChristopher.Co%40microsoft.c
> > om%7C4a7d8c01e4804365f4eb08d640837a15%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd
> > 011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636767330779998429&amp;sdata=Lsplb1L7Ugd2C6cXG
> > 8gBo40Ei8UQPtIA7fNEDL1t%2Fbg%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sumit
> >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 3:55 AM
> > > > To: Chris Co <Christopher.Co@microsoft.com>; Leif Lindholm
> > > > <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
> > > > Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Ard Biesheuvel
> > > > <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>; Michael D Kinney
> > > > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms 01/27] Platform/Microsoft: Add
> > > > OpteeClientPkg dec
> > > >
> > > > Hi Christopher,
> > > >
> > > > Optee Client library has recently been merged to edk2 source code.
> > > > It tries to provide a generic interface [1] to OP-TEE based trusted
> > > > applications (pseudo/early).
> > > >
> > > > AFAIK, you don't need any platform specific hook in client interface
> > > > to work with upstream OP-TEE. So instead you should use Optee library.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit
> > > > hub.c
> > > >
> > om%2Ftianocore%2Fedk2%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2FArmPkg%2FInclude%2FLibrary
> > > >
> > %2FOpteeLib.h&amp;data=02%7C01%7CChristopher.Co%40microsoft.com%7C
> > > >
> > c19b84ef7f8f4213424108d63fe88f66%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47
> > > >
> > %7C1%7C0%7C636766665404786500&amp;sdata=m24akbKtoyCERVN77meoSU
> > > > H6E%2Bpf8W2P5MF7nvU5y7I%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sumit
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 02:13, Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +Sumit (just to loop you two together). Is there anything
> > > > > +Microsoft
> > > > > platform specific about what will go in here?
> > > > >
> > > > > /
> > > > >     Leif
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 08:25:53AM +0000, Chris Co wrote:
> > > > > > On Windows IoT Core devices with ARM TrustZone capabilities,
> > > > > > EDK2 runs in normal world and we use OP-TEE to execute secure
> > > > > > world operations. The overall package will contain client-side
> > > > > > support to invoke EDK2 services implemented as OP-TEE trusted
> > > > > > applications that run in secure world.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This commit adds the initial dec file to add some PCD settings
> > > > > > needed by other packages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.1
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Christopher Co <christopher.co@microsoft.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Michael D Kinney <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  Platform/Microsoft/OpteeClientPkg/OpteeClientPkg.dec | 49
> > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 49 insertions(+)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git
> > > > > > a/Platform/Microsoft/OpteeClientPkg/OpteeClientPkg.dec
> > > > > > b/Platform/Microsoft/OpteeClientPkg/OpteeClientPkg.dec
> > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > index 000000000000..4752eab39ce3
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/Platform/Microsoft/OpteeClientPkg/OpteeClientPkg.dec
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
> > > > > > +## @file
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +#  OP-TEE client package
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +#  OP-TEE client package contains the client-side interface to
> > > > > > +invoke OP-
> > > > TEE TAs.
> > > > > > +#  Certain EDKII services are implemented in Trusted
> > > > > > +Applications running in #  the secure world OP-TEE OS.
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +#  Copyright (c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +#  This program and the accompanying materials #  are licensed
> > > > > > +and made available under the terms and conditions of the BSD
> > > > > > +License # which accompanies this distribution.  The full text
> > > > > > +of the license may be found at #
> > > > > > +https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2
> > > > > > +Fope
> > > > > > +nsource.org%2Flicenses%2Fbsd-
> > > > license.php&amp;data=02%7C01%7CChristo
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > +pher.Co%40microsoft.com%7Cc19b84ef7f8f4213424108d63fe88f66%7C72f988
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > +bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636766665404786500&amp;sda
> > > > ta=1
> > > > > >
> > +MxFvlsMPhk19grEexBXo5VqRd0jZaCSRjxZCi87A2w%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +#  THE PROGRAM IS DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE BSD LICENSE ON AN "AS
> > IS"
> > > > > > +BASIS, #  WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR REPRESENTATIONS OF ANY KIND,
> > > > EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED.
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +##
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +[Defines]
> > > > > > +  DEC_SPECIFICATION              = 0x0001001A
> > > > > > +  PACKAGE_NAME                   = OpteeClientPkg
> > > > > > +  PACKAGE_GUID                   = 77416fcb-10ec-4693-bdc0-
> > 1bdd74ec9595
> > > > > > +  PACKAGE_VERSION                = 0.01
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +[Includes]
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +[LibraryClasses]
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +[Guids]
> > > > > > +  gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid   = { 0x04ad34ca, 0xdd25, 0x4156, {
> > > > 0x90, 0xf5, 0x16, 0xf9, 0x40, 0xd0, 0x49, 0xe3 }}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +[PcdsFixedAtBuild]
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > +gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdTpm2AcpiBufferBase|0|UINT64|0x0000
> > > > > > +0005
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > +gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdTpm2AcpiBufferSize|0|UINT32|0x0000
> > > > > > +0006
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  ## The base address of the Trust Zone OpTEE OS private memory
> > > > > > + region  # This memory is manager privately by the OpTEE OS.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +
> > > >
> > gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdTrustZonePrivateMemoryBase|0xDEAD
> > > > > > + 1|UINT64|0x00000001
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  ## The size of the Trust Zone OpTEE OS private memory region
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +
> > > > gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdTrustZonePrivateMemorySize|55|UIN
> > > > > > + T64|0x00000002
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  ## The base address of the Trust Zone OpTEE OS shared memory
> > > > > > + region
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +
> > > >
> > gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdTrustZoneSharedMemoryBase|0xDEAD2
> > > > > > + |UINT64|0x00000003
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  ## The size of the Trust Zone OpTEE OS shared memory region
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +
> > > >
> > gOpteeClientPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdTrustZoneSharedMemorySize|0xAA|UI
> > > > > > + NT64|0x00000004
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 2.16.2.gvfs.1.33.gf5370f1
> > > > > >


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-05 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-21  8:25 [PATCH edk2-platforms 00/27] Import Hummingboard Edge platform for Windows IoT Core Chris Co
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 01/27] Platform/Microsoft: Add OpteeClientPkg dec Chris Co
2018-10-31 20:43   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-01 10:55     ` Sumit Garg
2018-11-02  0:41       ` Chris Co
2018-11-02  5:24         ` Sumit Garg
2018-11-02 23:55           ` Chris Co
2018-11-05 10:07             ` Sumit Garg [this message]
2018-11-06  1:53               ` Chris Co
2018-11-06 11:09                 ` Sumit Garg
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 02/27] Platform/Microsoft: Add SdMmc Dxe Driver Chris Co
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 04/27] Silicon/NXP: Add iMXPlatformPkg dec Chris Co
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 03/27] Platform/Microsoft: Add MsPkg Chris Co
2018-10-31 21:00   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 05/27] Silicon/NXP: Add UART library support for i.MX platforms Chris Co
2018-11-01  8:59   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-02  1:46     ` Chris Co
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 06/27] Silicon/NXP: Add I2C " Chris Co
2018-11-01 17:53   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 07/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX display library support Chris Co
2018-11-01 18:05   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-29  0:55     ` Chris Co
2018-09-21  8:25 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 08/27] Silicon/NXP: Add Virtual RTC support for i.MX platform Chris Co
2018-12-15 13:26   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 10/27] Silicon/NXP: Add iMX6Pkg dec Chris Co
2018-11-01 18:25   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 09/27] Silicon/NXP: Add headers for SoC-specific i.MX packages to use Chris Co
2018-11-01 18:20   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-12-01  0:22     ` Chris Co
2018-12-03  9:42       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-12-04  1:44         ` Chris Co
2018-12-04  9:33           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-04 12:22             ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 11/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 SoC header files Chris Co
2018-12-13 17:11   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 12/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 I/O MUX library Chris Co
2018-11-08 18:00   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-12-04  1:41     ` Chris Co
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 13/27] Silicon/NXP: Add support for iMX SDHC Chris Co
2018-12-05 10:31   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 14/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 GPT and EPIT timer headers Chris Co
2018-11-08 18:14   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-12-04  2:06     ` Chris Co
2018-12-04 12:58       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 15/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 GPT Timer library Chris Co
2018-12-13 17:26   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 16/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 Timer DXE driver Chris Co
2018-12-13 17:33   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 17/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 USB Phy Library Chris Co
2018-12-14 17:10   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 18/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 Clock Library Chris Co
2018-12-14 18:12   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 19/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 ACPI tables Chris Co
2018-12-14 19:53   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-12-17 11:14   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-08 21:43     ` Chris Co
2019-01-29 14:09       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 20/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 Board init library Chris Co
2018-12-14 20:12   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 21/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 PCIe DXE driver Chris Co
2018-12-14 21:59   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 23/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 Smbios Driver Chris Co
2018-12-14 23:07   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 22/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 GOP driver Chris Co
2018-12-14 22:37   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 24/27] Silicon/NXP: Add i.MX6 common dsc and fdf files Chris Co
2018-12-14 23:36   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 25/27] Platform/Solidrun: Add Hummingboard Peripheral Initialization Chris Co
2018-12-15 12:12   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 26/27] Platform/SolidRun: Add i.MX 6Quad Hummingboard Edge ACPI tables Chris Co
2018-12-15 12:19   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-09-21  8:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 27/27] Platform/Solidrun: Add i.MX 6Quad Hummingboard Edge dsc and fdf files Chris Co
2018-12-15 12:28   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-12-15 13:32 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms 00/27] Import Hummingboard Edge platform for Windows IoT Core Leif Lindholm
2018-12-19 18:28   ` Chris Co

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