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From: "David F." <df7729@gmail.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	 edk2 developers list <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	"Carsey, Jaben" <jaben.carsey@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] BaseTools/CommonLib: drop definition of MAX_UINTN
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:53:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGRSmLt6RGfJSKFGkoSPuUZoLYDHsrG83xY4KA0zXoGaUju6nw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11e96d9d-7f7c-7b2d-c05d-e5d009a2f4b1@redhat.com>

I don't know, to me it's very clear that UINTN is talking about the target,
just like size_t would be.

There are/were a bunch of API's using UINTN so using UINTN was desirable,
and where needed UINTN_MAX.

I just don't see an advantage to removing it.   Do see disadvantage to
removing it for breaking existing code and for those that want the "native"
(best/fasted/most efficient) int size for the processor (similar again to
size_t)

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:46 AM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 12/11/18 08:11, David F. wrote:
> > Not sure why you'd take that out when someone using UINTN for variables
> may
> > want to use MAX_UINTN ?    Future may be different.
>
> The UINTN type comes from the UEFI spec:
>
>     Unsigned value of native width. (4 bytes on supported 32-bit
>     processor instructions, 8 bytes on supported 64-bit processor
>     instructions, 16 bytes on supported 128-bit processor instructions)
>
> In this sense, "native" refers to the firmware execution environment.
> The firmware execution environment need not have anything in common with
> the build environment. (You can build 32-bit ARM firmware on X64 hosts.)
> In such a scenario, using UINTN *at all* is fraught with
> misunderstandings. It *would* be possible to use UINTN as it applies to
> the build (= hosted) environment, and in that sense MAX_UINTN would also
> be possible to define. However, the code being removed (= defining
> MAX_UINTN as MAX_ADDRESS) proves that that approach would be very easy
> to misunderstand and misuse. People could easily mistake it for applying
> to the firmware execution environment.
>
> UINT32 and UINT64 are not affected by this ambiguity.
>
> Optimally, given that the build utilities target a hosted C runtime,
> they should use standard C types, such as "unsigned int", or e.g.
> "uint32_t". Together with standard C macros expressing limits, such as
> UINT_MAX (from <limits.h>) and UINT32_MAX (from <stdint.h>).
>
> Clearly no-one has capacity to clean up BaseTools like this. For
> starters, we should at least remove whatever actively causes confusion.
>
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
>
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:08 AM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/30/18 23:45, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >>> The maximum value that can be represented by the native word size
> >>> of the *target* should be irrelevant when compiling tools that
> >>> run on the build *host*. So drop the definition of MAX_UINTN, now
> >>> that we no longer use it.
> >>>
> >>> Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.1
> >>> Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Jaben Carsey <jaben.carsey@intel.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>  BaseTools/Source/C/Common/CommonLib.h | 1 -
> >>>  1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/BaseTools/Source/C/Common/CommonLib.h
> >> b/BaseTools/Source/C/Common/CommonLib.h
> >>> index 6930d9227b87..b1c6c00a3478 100644
> >>> --- a/BaseTools/Source/C/Common/CommonLib.h
> >>> +++ b/BaseTools/Source/C/Common/CommonLib.h
> >>> @@ -22,7 +22,6 @@ WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR REPRESENTATIONS OF ANY KIND,
> >> EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED.
> >>>
> >>>  #define MAX_LONG_FILE_PATH 500
> >>>
> >>> -#define MAX_UINTN MAX_ADDRESS
> >>>  #define MAX_UINT64 ((UINT64)0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFULL)
> >>>  #define MAX_UINT16  ((UINT16)0xFFFF)
> >>>  #define MAX_UINT8   ((UINT8)0xFF)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Reviewed-by: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> edk2-devel mailing list
> >> edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> >> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
> >>
> >
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-11 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-30 22:45 [PATCH v2 0/6] BaseTools: get rid of MAX_UINTN Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-30 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] BaseTools/CommonLib: avoid using 'native' word size in IP address handling Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-03 10:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-12-03 12:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-11-30 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] BaseTools/CommonLib: use explicit 64-bit type in Strtoi() Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-03 10:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-12-03 12:52   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-11-30 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] BaseTools/DevicePath: use explicit 64-bit number parsing routines Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-03 10:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-12-03 12:55   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-11-30 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] BaseTools/DevicePath: use MAX_UINT16 as default device path max size Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-03 13:05   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-12-05  0:04     ` Gao, Liming
2018-12-05  7:42       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-05  7:53         ` Gao, Liming
2018-11-30 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] BaseTools/CommonLib: get rid of 'native' type string parsing routines Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-03 10:27   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-12-03 13:08   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-11-30 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] BaseTools/CommonLib: drop definition of MAX_UINTN Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-03 10:28   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-12-03 13:08   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-12-11  7:11     ` David F.
2018-12-11 15:45       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-12-11 22:53         ` David F. [this message]
2018-12-11 22:55           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-11 23:03             ` David F.
2018-12-05  0:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] BaseTools: get rid " Gao, Liming
2018-12-05  8:12   ` Ard Biesheuvel

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