From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36CF42050AAE6 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id l7so2095766ioe.3 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:17:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r7hj3LEBhnj4yrWs4x/ombmiHubtb2Lw2vlmqnBoVnM=; b=OxqTGISzj7l7OLl48CLsklkf3ekkrZR3KLnUulb/AM72SoXsTFdYS/UGmvh6K6u3Ja X3IuqCBUyiPjjXCrhCE7sGMf4mgYjsYMOPIiwzuubBVSoKfum6FNuGXsEHeCiZ0epQE/ GcwRH15YtV4LX/5sYHul4pg46dSUe4blTTHDk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r7hj3LEBhnj4yrWs4x/ombmiHubtb2Lw2vlmqnBoVnM=; b=gxSKAnnThaQvUHfVXH0ZghaxcyMnXFoqtbL2XmPW0q4lmvvqvhYcsaYAY7xLmL74ns O8B/mEON1/BQMIj/1miXoF9XrGim9XwLr37hFlh53v9d3X9xoSu4TBuq6C/VamH2hBce hL5C7sH+5Bim4iloQNtdzAFSHS9H2YwxuNiyjxesbjFSZEDrvbf7QTR6MXINUElpiNWC T4E8hF5+94dn5qN0qY/pkeXGTPuA1/RUeuoSt6XqcigqgrEZ1GSrsJrkiG3Ozngk1ct0 u7g5rVuVt0Y3TDXp4Leu/dlmgTmNfuge940CspStc7XsHXdR1QbWJZdl5NYxvttYwg8P wdCA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1KrnzQytwNDxwvU9AgA7WK8w+huYGETcqQ3OZhMUt/chOMBgey6m+ukiDR3e0qiJkyCQGnYASad1vNjTVH X-Received: by 10.107.132.155 with SMTP id o27mr1596996ioi.138.1490804224497; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.10.27 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:17:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7F72156F-3814-4CF1-8847-A7272409A85E@redhat.com> References: <20170329151940.23397-1-ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> <7F72156F-3814-4CF1-8847-A7272409A85E@redhat.com> From: Ard Biesheuvel Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 17:17:03 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jon Masters Cc: Laszlo Ersek , "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" , Marc Zyngier , Drew Jones Subject: Re: [PATCH] ArmVirtPkg/PlatformHasAcpiDtDxe: allow manual override for DT installation X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:17:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 March 2017 at 17:09, Jon Masters wrote: > Thanks Laszlo. A quick note from me that regardless of this discussion I = will be pushing to ensure the version Red Hat ships makes ACPI the default = with it being extremely painful to use DT. It is time the ecosystem got wit= h the program we all agreed upon and there will be no more excuses. > This has *nothing* to do with the ecosystem. This has to do with existing users of ArmVirtQemu (admittedly, a small fraction) that will be forced to compile their UEFI images from source because we made a backwards incompatible change. I am 100% on board with making ACPI and DT mutually exclusive. But I don't believe for a second that 'everybody just exposes ACPI and DT at the same time' if this gets merged. That happens because people are clueless, not because they are deliberately spending time and effort on producing two hardware descriptions.