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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>
Cc: "Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	 "Ni, Ruiyu" <ruiyu.ni@intel.com>,
	"Tian, Feng" <feng.tian@intel.com>,
	 Tomasz Michalec <tm@semihalf.com>,
	"Zeng, Star" <star.zeng@intel.com>,
	 edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com>,
	 "Wu, Hao A" <hao.a.wu@intel.com>,
	Nadav Haklai <nadavh@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe: Add UhsSignaling to SdMmcOverride protocol
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:24:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu-yd+cqz2_Pt73xtuU=nsgqNKuLXSoydxwNZm+XGJQegw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPv3WKdSV9fomomuzduN=6F=9qnMXAc7XGgiM3=0dKnzDM8r2A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 12 Oct 2018 at 18:04, Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com> wrote:
>
> pt., 12 paź 2018 o 17:55 Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> napisał(a):
> >
> > On 12 October 2018 at 07:06, Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com> wrote:
> > > pt., 12 paź 2018 o 03:41 Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com> napisał(a):
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Marcin Wojtas [mailto:mw@semihalf.com]
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:43 PM
> > >> > To: Wu, Hao A
> > >> > Cc: Ni, Ruiyu; Ard Biesheuvel; Tian, Feng; Tomasz Michalec; Dong, Eric; edk2-
> > >> > devel-01; Gao, Liming; nadavh@marvell.com; Kinney, Michael D; Zeng, Star
> > >> > Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH v2 2/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe: Add
> > >> > UhsSignaling to SdMmcOverride protocol
> > >> >
> > >> > wt., 9 paź 2018 o 13:51 Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com> napisał(a):
> > >> > >
> > >> > > wt., 9 paź 2018 o 13:45 Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> > >> > napisał(a):
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On 9 October 2018 at 13:32, Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > > wt., 9 paź 2018 o 13:28 Wu, Hao A <hao.a.wu@intel.com> napisał(a):
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > >> > From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On
> > >> > Behalf Of Ard
> > >> > > > >> > Biesheuvel
> > >> > > > >> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:10 PM
> > >> > > > >> > To: Marcin Wojtas; Ni, Ruiyu; Wu, Hao A
> > >> > > > >> > Cc: Tian, Feng; Tomasz Michalec; Dong, Eric; edk2-devel-01; Gao,
> > >> > Liming;
> > >> > > > >> > Nadav Haklai; Kinney, Michael D; Zeng, Star
> > >> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH v2 2/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe:
> > >> > Add
> > >> > > > >> > UhsSignaling to SdMmcOverride protocol
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > ...
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > I suppose this is defined by the eMMC spec.
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > Ruiyu, Hao, could you clarify? Are the host control 2 register values
> > >> > > > >> > for HS200/HS400 defined by the eMMC spec?
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Hi Ard and Marcin,
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> As far as I know, the EMMC Electrical Standard Spec 5.1 (latest) does
> > >> > not
> > >> > > > >> mention on how to set the "UHS Mode Select" field of the Host
> > >> > Control 2
> > >> > > > >> Register when switching to HS200/HS400. (Actually, the EMMC spec
> > >> > does not
> > >> > > > >> mention Host Control 2 Register at all)
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> When it comes to setting the bus mode for EMMC devices, the current
> > >> > > > >> implementation of the SdMmcPciHcDxe driver does a mapping when
> > >> > setting the
> > >> > > > >> Host Control 2 Register:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> EMMC High Speed SDR - Freq: 0-52 MHz, Data Rate: Single
> > >> > > > >> matches
> > >> > > > >> SD   SDR25          - Freq: 0-50 MHz, Data Rate: Single
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> EMMC High Speed DDR - Freq: 0-52 MHz, Data Rate: Dual
> > >> > > > >> matches
> > >> > > > >> SD   DDR50          - Freq: 0-50 MHz, Data Rate: Dual
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> EMMC HS200          - Freq: 0-200 MHz, Data Rate: Single
> > >> > > > >> matches
> > >> > > > >> SD   SDR104         - Freq: 0-208 MHz, Data Rate: Single
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> EMMC HS400          - Freq: 0-200 MHz, Data Rate: Dual
> > >> > > > >> matches
> > >> > > > >> SD   None
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> And there is no obvious counterpart for the EMMC HS400 mode in the
> > >> > SD
> > >> > > > >> spec. The driver currently sets the "UHS Mode Select" field to a
> > >> > reserved
> > >> > > > >> value 0x5.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thank you Hao, above is on par with what the default UhsSignaling
> > >> > > > > routine does in this patch. IMO especially in case the EMMC standard
> > >> > > > > is not unequivocal regarding UHS_MODE_SEL, I'd encourage to accept
> > >> > > > > some way of updating HostControl2 register, depending on the
> > >> > > > > implementation. What is your opinion Ard?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I would like to know where the current values in SdMmcPciHcDxe come
> > >> > > > from if they are not defined in any spec.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > How do we know which ones are the correct ones?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hao, can you justify used values?
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Hao,
> > >> >
> > >> > Can you please take a look at the UHS_MODE_SEL values source for eMMC?
> > >>
> > >> Hi Marcin,
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the delayed response.
> > >>
> > >> For the current implementation of the SdMmcPciHcDxe driver, the selecting
> > >> of "UHS Mode Select" field value of the Host Control 2 Register is based
> > >> on a Max Clock Frequency & Data Rate (Single or Dual) matching
> > >> relationship between the:
> > >>
> > >> A. Table 3-6 of the SD Specifications Part 1 Physical Layer Simplified
> > >> Specification Version 4.10
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> B. Table 4 of the EMMC Electrical Standard Spec 5.1
> > >>
> > >> The matching details was included in my previous reply. The only missing
> > >> part is there seems no matching for the EMMC HS400 mode in the SD
> > >> specifications. For this case, we are currently using the same approach
> > >> with the Linux implementation, that is to set the "UHS Mode Select" to a
> > >> value of 0x5 (not standard).
> > >>
> > >
> > > Hao,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for the clarification.
> > >
> > > Ard,
> > >
> > > Knowing the numbers details, what is your view of the UhsSignaling handling?
> > >
> >
> > I think it makes sense to be able to override the SD->MMC mapping for
> > HC2 attributes. But it seems to me that this mapping is rather ad-hoc
> > and so it should apply to all configuration that is inferred:
> > UhsSignalling does not quite cover it.
> >
> > So I think the approach is correct, but we need a better name.
>
> Do you mean to update more fields in HC2 than UHS_MODE_SEL?

AIUI the EMMC spec does not mention HC2 at all, and yet we have to set
it to a sane value, and we are currently using fuzzy logic for it.
Or are the other fields less ambiguous?


  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-12 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-05 13:25 [PATCH v2 0/4] SdMmcOverride extension Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-05 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe: Add an optional parameter in NotifyPhase Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 12:21   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-05 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe: Add UhsSignaling to SdMmcOverride protocol Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-05 15:12   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-10-05 15:17     ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 12:41   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-08 12:59     ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 13:07       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-08 13:17         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 13:27           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-08 13:37             ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 13:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-08 14:52                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 15:10                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-09 11:22                     ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-09 11:32                       ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-09 11:45                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-09 11:51                           ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-11 15:43                             ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-12  1:39                               ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-12  5:06                                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-12 15:55                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-12 16:04                                     ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-12 16:24                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2018-10-12 16:49                                         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-11-01  7:04   ` Wu, Hao A
2018-11-02  8:21     ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-11-02 12:16       ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-11-03  2:57         ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-05 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe: Add SwitchClockFreqPost to SdMmcOverride Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 12:44   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-01  7:06   ` Wu, Hao A
2018-11-02  9:39     ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-11-03  3:19       ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-05 13:25 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] MdeModulePkg/SdMmcPciHcDxe: Allow overriding base clock frequency Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-08 12:49   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-01  7:11   ` Wu, Hao A
2018-11-02  9:52     ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-12  5:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] SdMmcOverride extension Wu, Hao A
2018-10-12  5:33   ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-12 12:48     ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-12 12:50       ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-25 12:43         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-10-26  7:22           ` Wu, Hao A
2018-11-01  7:11 ` Wu, Hao A
2018-11-02 10:09   ` Marcin Wojtas

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